Marcus Smart has altercation with fan in Denver.

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  1. reignman40

    reignman40 Well-Known Member

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    Wasn't this the same thing a fan told Westbrook last year and us jazz fans were all labeled racist?

    https://www.nba.com/article/2019/11/23/celtics-marcus-smart-fan-incident

    The NBA is investigating an incident between Boston guard Marcus Smart and a fan in Denver, after the Celtics guard said he heard a derogatory comment and was unhappy with the way that he believed security in the arena responded to the matter.

    Smart said a fan told him to "get on your knees" after he pursued a loose ball along the sideline during Friday's game in Denver. Smart said one of his feet got tangled in frame of a courtside chair, and while he was trying to free himself he heard the comment.

    NBA spokesman Tim Frank said Saturday the league is investigating the matter.

    "The fan told me, `That's right, stay on the ground, get on your knees,"' Smart told reporters postgame Friday night. "Excuse me? I just told him, 'Listen, just watch the game because if we retaliate to you guys and if we were on the street, I guarantee you wouldn't say that."

    Smart said security at Denver's Pepsi Center essentially ignored him. At least one security guard was seen speaking to fans in that section moments after the fourth-quarter incident, but it was unclear if any further action was taken.

    "I told them who it was," Smart said. "They just looked at him and didn't even say anything to him, didn't even get him out of the game. Probably if I was a superstar, they probably would have did something but it is what it is. We're going to end up protecting ourselves eventually and it's not going to be pretty for those fans and we don't want that. The league doesn't want that."

    The incident is just the latest in several derogatory exchanges that have caught the NBA's attention in recent months. Russell Westbrook, DeMarcus Cousins, Kyle Lowry and others were involved in such incidents last season, prompting the NBA to say that it wants arena security personnel to have zero tolerance for abusive or hateful behavior.

    Last season, Westbrook and Cousins were subjected to racist taunts in Salt Lake City and Boston and the fans involved in those incidents were banned by the Jazz and Celtics. Lowry was shoved by a minority partner of the Golden State Warriors' ownership group, seated courtside during the NBA Finals, and that person was banned from team business for a year by the league.

    The league has not released exact numbers of how many fans have been ejected for such incidents. But after a number of players met with the NBA this past offseason to air their concerns about safety and fan behavior, the league expanded the area in arenas most closely monitored when it comes to player-fan interaction.

    The top-priority area used to be just those seated with feet on the court itself or maybe the first couple rows of courtside seats; now, that area goes several rows deep in every building, plus the areas where teams and referees enter and exit the court.

    "That's a problem in the league that we've got to fix," Smart said. "If we retaliate to protect ourselves, we're the ones getting in trouble. They're not. And that's not right. ... There's nowhere in this league for it."

    This is not the first incident between Smart and a fan.

    In 2014, when he was playing for Oklahoma State, Smart was suspended three games for shoving a Texas Tech fan after a play where he crashed into some baseline seats following a blocked shot. Smart got up, then turned around and exchanged words with the fan before giving him a two-handed shove. Smart later apologized, and said it was "a lesson I'll have to learn from."
     
  2. str8line

    str8line Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner

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    "We're going to end up protecting ourselves eventually and it's not going to be pretty for those fans and we don't want that. The league doesn't want that."


    Protecting himself from what, some idiot talking smack? The NBA should get a handle on players acting like words are the same as physical confrontation.
     
  3. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    This.
    Crybabies.
    Have thicker skin. Fans are paying (lots of) money to be there. Players are getting paid (tons of) money to be there. Have some perspective.

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  4. Archie Moses

    Archie Moses Well-Known Member

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    The Utah fan supposedly called Westbrook, "boy" - which, in fact, is racist. Although, I don't think the man meant to be racist because hardly anyone knows the history of calling someone boy.
     
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  5. reignman40

    reignman40 Well-Known Member

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    I thought that was a different fan from the 2018 playoffs.

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  6. Saint Cy of JFC

    Saint Cy of JFC Well-Known Member

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    You dont know what can happen when there is booze, a lot of angry fans, and hyper-masculine superhumans involved.. It's smart (no pun intended) for the NBA to crackdown on this stuff.
     
  7. str8line

    str8line Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner

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    Smart saying he needs to "protect" himself is throwing gas on the fire. Unruly fans are annoying but ratcheting it up to "it's not going to be pretty" and "we're going to protect ourselves eventually" is ridiculous and worthy of a fine.

    When I was second row for the Thunder playoff game a few years ago I had a bunch of idiots around me yelling stupid ****. Those fans should have been put in their place by security. Being a dick shouldn't be tolerated.
     
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  8. tfivas

    tfivas Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    I don't necessarily disagree with your points but just because fans pay money to be there doesn't mean we get to say anything and the players should just take it.
    I think most players are pretty good about your typical heckling and have every right go back at fans that cross the line.
     
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    str8line Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner

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    I agree that players have the right to say something, but they need to keep themselves in check. Half the hecklers are drunk after all. The NBA should require more security and fans should be on a very short leash.
     
  10. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    Saying something is fine. Players saying something that insinuates that they might have to start going into the crowd and attacking heckling fans is thin skinned BS though.
    Also for every heckler a player deals with they get thousands of fans heaping praise and love their way. Again, have some perspective. And the fact that they make millions to play a game does carry weight.

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  11. Wes Mantooth

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    Sorry, I miss the days of out of control fans. The opposing players should embrace that. It’s part of what made sports awesome. Walking into an opposing stadium with rabid fans.

    Players make 30x as much money now and are 30x the crybaby about it.
     
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