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Memo traded to NJ

AKMVP said:
are you suggesting Jazz would bring Hedo? Why? He is even more washed up then Howard...and he is the most selfish chucker left in NBA.
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It appears, AKMVP, that Ms. Dydek is suggesting that the Jazz trade away our good-outside-shooting, poor-defending Turkish center (Slowkur) for a good-outside-shooting, poor-defending Turkish forward (Turkey-glue).

<<scratching head>>
(dandruff-free)
 
InGameStrategy said:
It appears, AKMVP, that Ms. Dydek is suggesting that the Jazz trade away our good-outside-shooting, poor-defending Turkish center (Slowkur) for a good-outside-shooting, poor-defending Turkish forward (Turkey-glue).

<<scratching head>>
(dandruff-free)
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0.428 career FG is not good shooting in my book. Seriously, Hedo sucks, thats why I am lost why we are even talking about him?
 
NUMBERICA said:
Lopez isn't done for the year (not yet, anyway). He's scheduled to be back before the trade deadline and he'd be the centerpiece in a trade for Dwight. Trading Dwight is not a financial move for Orlando, it's a pure necessity, so they want talent back primarily with all focus on financial savings secondary.

Besides that, the Nets are not in a rebuilding year. You don't trade your once All-Star PG and three lottery picks for a guy with a year left on his deal. NJ is win-now because if they don't, they just set themselves back a decade. Okur is a stop gap, and it was a smart move for them. Assuming Memo can play at all (and even if he can't, they had nothing resembling a C on that team).

Again, NJ is ALL IN. They are not rebuilding (right now).
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NJ is out of the running for Howard TODAY - The Magic aren't going to wait on NJ while the centerpiece of their trade offer recovers from a broken foot and Howard keeps whining about being in Orlando.

And of course NJ is rebuilding - they're just trying to do it Mark Cuban style. If they're not, they're ****ed. Even with Lopez they'd be lucky to win 20 games this year.
 
AKMVP said:
so why don't you explain in simple language what this is about? Sorry I am just lost here...
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Look, I think the chances of the Jazz trading from Dwight Howard went from 1% (pre Memo trade), to 2%. Obviously I do not think they are going to do it. I was merely pointing to the fact that Hedo's salary this year matches up perfectly with the Trade Exception we just got. $10.8/$10.6. I do not want Hedo on my team. Nobody wants Hedo on their team (including Orlando), that is why whoever wants Dwight will have to take back Hedo and his awful contract.

The Jazz won't do it (although I do think they now have the pieces to pull it off), but if someone said you could have Dwight for 1 yr (possibly 2) but you have to take Hedo's awful contract (which lasts 3 more years) and give up Al + CJ + GS Pick + Gordo or Burks, I'd do it.

And for the last time, this is occurring in an alternate universe - not ours.
 
margodydek said:
Look, I think the chances of the Jazz trading from Dwight Howard went from 1% (pre Memo trade), to 2%. Obviously I do not think they are going to do it. I was merely pointing to the fact that Hedo's salary this year matches up perfectly with the Trade Exception we just got. $10.8/$10.6. I do not want Hedo on my team. Nobody wants Hedo on their team (including Orlando), that is why whoever wants Dwight will have to take back Hedo and his awful contract.

The Jazz won't do it (although I do think they now have the pieces to pull it off), but if someone said you could have Dwight for 1 yr (possibly 2) but you have to take Hedo's awful contract (which lasts 3 more years) and give up Al + CJ + GS Pick + Gordo or Burks, I'd do it.

And for the last time, this is occurring in an alternate universe - not ours.
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Wait you would give up Al, CJ ,GS pick and Hayward while also taking on a bad contract for a 1 year rental of Howard? I don't think that would be a smart thing for this team to do. If Howard agrees to an extension I'm all for it. But not for a rental.
 
gregbroncs said:
Wait you would give up Al, CJ ,GS pick and Hayward while also taking on a bad contract for a 1 year rental of Howard? I don't think that would be a smart thing for this team to do. If Howard agrees to an extension I'm all for it. But not for a rental.
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Agree. You've gutted the wing positions and traded away the one hope we have for improving those spots (draft picks). I don't care HOW good a Favors/Howard combo is (with Millsap and Kanter behind them). You still have Harris and Bell at the guard spots and an old J. Howard at SF with a near worthless Hedo behinf him. Even Miami ciouldn't win with DWade and Lebron (and Bosh). You just can't have major liabilities at other key spots. It's too easy for teams to pack the inside and dare Bell, Burks and Harris to beat them from the outside.

And defintely, you'd need a guarantee from Superman that he'd sign an extension. But why argue the point. Dwight gave Orlando a list of three teams; Utah wasn;t one of them. I'd have to think the Jazz are somewhere on his list between the Seattle Sonics and Buffalo Braves.
 
gregbroncs said:
Wait you would give up Al, CJ ,GS pick and Hayward while also taking on a bad contract for a 1 year rental of Howard? I don't think that would be a smart thing for this team to do. If Howard agrees to an extension I'm all for it. But not for a rental.
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In a heartbeat. I'm not a fan of Al (for all we know we'd end up amnestying him after this year), CJ blows, for all we know the GS pick could end up being a 2nd round pick 3 years from now. Hayward is the only piece that would be tough to give up - as he could possibly have a bright future with the Jazz, but would I trade him for a year of Dwight? Yes.

None of those pieces are going to take us to the promised land, and I don't think Dwight could do it in one year either, but it would be hella fun to watch.
 
GlassEater said:
Agree. You've gutted the wing positions and traded away the one hope we have for improving those spots (draft picks). I don't care HOW good a Favors/Howard combo is (with Millsap and Kanter behind them). You still have Harris and Bell at the guard spots and an old J. Howard at SF with a near worthless Hedo behinf him. Even Miami ciouldn't win with DWade and Lebron (and Bosh). You just can't have major liabilities at other key spots. It's too easy for teams to pack the inside and dare Bell, Burks and Harris to beat them from the outside.

And defintely, you'd need a guarantee from Superman that he'd sign an extension. But why argue the point. Dwight gave Orlando a list of three teams; Utah wasn;t one of them. I'd have to think the Jazz are somewhere on his list between the Seattle Sonics and Buffalo Braves.
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You realize that Harris, Bell + Burks would still have to beat people from the outside with our current lineup, right?

Once again, it ain't going to happen
 
margodydek said:
Look, I think the chances of the Jazz trading from Dwight Howard went from 1% (pre Memo trade), to 2%. Obviously I do not think they are going to do it. I was merely pointing to the fact that Hedo's salary this year matches up perfectly with the Trade Exception we just got. $10.8/$10.6. I do not want Hedo on my team. Nobody wants Hedo on their team (including Orlando), that is why whoever wants Dwight will have to take back Hedo and his awful contract.

The Jazz won't do it (although I do think they now have the pieces to pull it off), but if someone said you could have Dwight for 1 yr (possibly 2) but you have to take Hedo's awful contract (which lasts 3 more years) and give up Al + CJ + GS Pick + Gordo or Burks, I'd do it.

And for the last time, this is occurring in an alternate universe - not ours.
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Ok, now it makes sense. Thanks for taking time to explain it.
 
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