Millers sell the Jazz

[Handlogten's Heros]

So you think it's fair and right to tax people that first off might not even be Jazz fans let alone basketball fans to build a billionaire's arena? No ****ing way. Let the billionaire build his own arena and let the poor and middle class keep their hard earned money to pay for things that actually improve their lives. If another city is dumb enough to give him taxpayer dollars then by all means wish him and the Jazz well in their new city.

Now, I do not believe Ryan Smith will push for this so I am not trying to make him sound like a villain. I am just pointing out the obvious here. Taxpayers always get screwed over when politicians buy into this and give public money to fund billionaire's stadiums/arenas. Mr. Smith can afford to buy land and build his own arena if it comes to that. If he can't, he probably shouldn't have bought the Jazz.

He may not even ask but it’s something that is fairly common. As far as hard earned tax funds go... some of my tax dollars are going to fund a 70B light rail system that likely is never completed and that I will never use... how is that fair? And all the contractors building it are making a **** ton of money along the way... it’s immoral for them to make that money and for governments to fund that right? It will also likely not make enough revenue for operating costs so we will have to further subsidize it.

While it would be nice for all our tax dollars to be used efficiently and for noble purposes it just isn’t reality. If the public voted to help subsidize an arena to keep a team in the state I don’t see that as the worst use of public funds... sorry.

 

[candrew]

Reading up on the new owner.

Can you imagine Coach Sloan dealing with him? Lol...

".....look son, if I need anything, I'll call you...."

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Reading up on the new owner.

Can you imagine Coach Sloan dealing with him? Lol...

".....look son, if I need anything, I'll call you...."

Ryan “sounds great Mr. Slo... I mean Coach Sloan... one question... what does jackpotting mean?”

 

[jom2003]

My only concern with this and it’s a tiny one because I have no idea what this new owner is like is that he’ll be too quick to pull the trigger on moves. Quin doesn’t show progress with the team as quickly as he likes, he fires him and hires someone new. Rinse, later, repeat. Like the Knicks. Not that he’d be the one making those decisions but that he just doesn’t bring the consistent stability the Millers did and is more involved and not in a good way. In a Knicks way. But like I said, I’m not very concerned with that.

If that is the case, it should be DL's job before anyone. There's no doubt to people in this basketball world that the Conley trade was a massive mistake that would likely result in us having to go over the cap for a player who barely makes a difference

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

If that is the case, it should be DL's job before anyone. There's no doubt to people in this basketball world that the Conley trade was a massive mistake that would likely result in us having to go over the cap for a player who barely makes a difference

I’m curious to see how DLs approach changes. A guy who came up as fast as Smith did may not have the long patient approach DL has at times.

 

[jom2003]

I’m curious to see how DLs approach changes. A guy who came up as fast as Smith did may not have the long patient approach DL has at times.

A patient approach would've been seeking a long term solution at the PG spot, instead of trading multiple assets year after year for PG rentals who would just end up walk for nothing

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

A patient approach would've been seeking a long term solution at the PG spot, instead of trading multiple assets year after year for PG rentals who would just end up walk for nothing

@infection has talked about this... He kept bakkking da cakkkks so long that he painted himself in a corner and got to a point where he was forced to pivot. He could have swapped out other pieces along the way when we had clear needs and could find some balance but around 50 wins and playoff births gets him a new contract so why risk the biscuit until you have to. He had to see it and get copious amounts of data before making his moves... but then he becomes overly reactionary and overpays to get it done. He becomes too anchored to his deals and his players imo (see Exum, Dante and to a lesser extent Bradley, Tony). The fact he couldn't let Quin move Conley to the bench this season when that is clearly what Quin decided to do further cements the idea to me that he likes to stick with things until he's proved wrong or right.

Call it patience or stubborness or being risk averse or whatever you like. The rotating band aids at point guard has been a problem... the fact he overpaid for Mike makes it worse.

 

[Hearsky]

That would be cool. I'm so happy for him regardless. I'm happy for the fans. This is excellent news.

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I also have on very good authority that Mr. Smith thinks you are a blowhard.

 

[cowhide]

The Jazz are not going to Seattle. Read the article in the Tribune. Guy loves Utah and the Jazz. I am excited about the new ownership. Mr. Smith sounds like a really smart guy and a humanitarian. The type of people I can get behind. Jazz are staying in SLC, sorry to disappoint all you Seattle people. I love the city of Seattle so it isn't against the city or their fans but Utah Jazz are a big part of the community in Utah and surrounding areas. They are not going anywhere.

 

[infection]

@infection has talked about this... He kept bakkking da cakkkks so long that he painted himself in a corner and got to a point where he was forced to pivot. He could have swapped out other pieces along the way when we had clear needs and could find some balance but around 50 wins and playoff births gets him a new contract so why risk the biscuit until you have to. He had to see it and get copious amounts of data before making his moves... but then he becomes overly reactionary and overpays to get it done. He becomes too anchored to his deals and his players imo (see Exum, Dante and to a lesser extent Bradley, Tony). The fact he couldn't let Quin move Conley to the bench this season when that is clearly what Quin decided to do further cements the idea to me that he likes to stick with things until he's proved wrong or right.

Call it patience or stubborness or being risk averse or whatever you like. The rotating band aids at point guard has been a problem... the fact he overpaid for Mike makes it worse.

DL buys stock in a company. He doesn't want to get too emotional about the ups and downs. He's read all the finances wisdom regarding patience. His stock continues to drop. He doesn't want to be the foolish guy who sells the stock at a low and then sees it explode. He wants to be extra sure that he knows for certain the stock is a failure before letting go. Unfortunately, the amount of certainty he requires before making that move is seeing the company go under, when he no longer has stock to sell.

 

[jope]

A couple things:
-HOLY ****
-I sure hope this is good from a basketball perspective. I’m cautiously optimistic, though I really appreciated Gail’s stewardship, for all of my occasional cheap shots.
-I will be the first to say that I would not be wildly upset if they moved the team to Seattle. But only Seattle. I dig the hell out of that place and if there’s a market that might have some reverence for the opportunity it would be them, not to mention that it’s not a crazy distance away. And though them staying is absolutely my preference, Utah doesn’t deserve a team - let alone this team - frankly.

Flame on.

Since moving to Portland, I'd actually be pretty stoked in a backwards way if they went to Seattle I could actually attend home games again

 

[jom2003]

DL buys stock in a company. He doesn't want to get too emotional about the ups and downs. He's read all the finances wisdom regarding patience. His stock continues to drop. He doesn't want to be the foolish guy who sells the stock at a low and then sees it explode. He wants to be extra sure that he knows for certain the stock is a failure before letting go. Unfortunately, the amount of certainty he requires before making that move is seeing the company go under, when he no longer has stock to sell.

Buy high(Conley) and sell low(Hood, Exum, Burks, etc)