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MLB umpire Jim Joyce killed by mob of angry fans in Detroit

wow. just wow. what a bummer for all concerned.

well I hope some good script writer writes a really good screenplay or something and both Gallaraga and the umpire get some nice residuals or something. Maybe he'll end up even more famous this way.

In a similar vein, was anybody watching the overtime period in the Flyers/Blackhawks game when the Flyers shot bounced off the post and slid along the goal line before Niemi stopped it? Pretty amazing - and a situation where instant replay was helpful and necessary. Too bad the Blackhawks couldn't take advantage.
 
What I find bizarre is that he just didn't call him out to be safe. At least that controversy would have been much less than this one.

Joyce screwed up majorly, his job is to get the call right and he blew it on the last play of a perfect game. He should feel awful. You got to have some baseball savvy and make sure you make the correct call at that moment.

Cabrera was quoted after the game -- "He needs to do a better job in that situation. It wasn't even close," he said.
 
2 things from this.

The pitcher showed some much class after the game saying no one is perfect. What a classy guy. Anyone else listen to him?

The ump owned it like the Lakers owned the Jazz. Hats off to him too. He feels really bad, which he should.
 
Interesting article written by Curt Schilling

Umpires … Yeah, they're human.

Lord knows I had my share of disputes, and I'll be first in line to say there are umpires in the big leagues who have no business being there. I do believe they should be held to a standard, a major league standard in all aspects of everything they do.

Having said that, I watched in horror Wednesday night as Armando Galarraga lost a perfect game because of a blown call by umpire Jim Joyce. My heart broke for two reasons. First off, the kid did it. He threw a perfect game that was ruined by a bad call.

The second reason was Jim Joyce does not -- and will not -- deserve 99 percent of the stupid things people will say about him in the coming days. Jim Joyce is, and always has been, an exceptional umpire and a fantastic guy. I had my run-ins with him; not often, but we did.

"I don't blame them a bit or anything that was said," Joyce said. "I would've said it myself if I had been Galarraga. I would've been the first person in my face, and he never said a word to me."

Joyce is a rare bird for this reason. He'll be the first to admit, as he did Wednesday, when he makes a mistake. He's a damn good umpire, incredibly consistent, which wins him votes with hitters and pitchers, but most of all accountable. That's the one thing so many young umpires have failed, and continue to fail to realize. We gripe a lot, too much sometimes, as players. Hitters gripe about strikes, pitchers gripe about balls.

Too many umpires fail to realize the quickest way to shut a player up is to admit when you are wrong. What can I do when an umpire says "Yep, missed it"?

The answer? Nothing. The great ones, Steve Palermo, Ed Rapuano, Jim Joyce, to name a few, do that, and always have. Frank Pulli didn't admit it much, but often enough that you never got too mad.

Calling it the biggest call of his career, Joyce said, "I just cost that kid a perfect game. I thought he beat the throw. I was convinced he beat the throw, until I saw the replay."

Umpires have been in the news far too much lately. The incident with Bill Hohn, who tossed Roy Oswalt over the weekend, was a shining example of what's wrong with umpires. Too many are trying to be the game, instead of umpire the game. Angel Hernandez did it on Tuesday night in the ninth inning in Toronto. He did make the right call, but there is a right way and wrong way to handle it. Angel was always good to me, and I respected him, but I always thought his confrontational attitude got him more detractors than he deserved as well as pushed him into more arguments.

Joe West? Same thing. Despite what some say, the guy is a good umpire. Smaller strike zone than I would have liked, but Joe was always consistent -- strike one was strike three. His attitude and demeanor get him into more arguments than his calls, I think.

So yeah, Jim Joyce made a call Wednesday he'll never forget, for all the wrong reasons, he changed history I guess. But I would ask you, if you know baseball, to trust me when I tell you NO ONE feels worse than he does right now, not even Armando Galarraga, I give you my word on that.

https://espn.go.com/mlb/notebook/_/page/bbtn100603/baseball-tonight-clubhouse

It tells you how invincible refs usually behave that one admits that he's wrong and we're all practically in awe.
 
Thats gotta be the most frustrating feeling in sports. Dang we could have had THREE perfect games within a month. Freakin Crazy
 
What I find bizarre is that he just didn't call him out to be safe. At least that controversy would have been much less than this one.

You know the ump had to be aware of a perfect game brewing. In a close call like that, err on the side of history. It would have been the last out of the third perfect game in a month. I don't think anybody would have cared if the call were wrong the other way.
 
I was impressed with the fact that the UMP owned up to his mistake, but seriously? One of the worst and most ballzy calls I've ever seen. Lots of props to the Tiger defense. The pitcher only struck out 3 batters.
 
You know the ump had to be aware of a perfect game brewing. In a close call like that, err on the side of history. It would have been the last out of the third perfect game in a month. I don't think anybody would have cared if the call were wrong the other way.

I agree. That's what's really puzzling to me. I think he probably had a total brain (banned word that rhymes with art)
 
I don't give a **** if he's safe on a tie. After a game like that, you give the kid the out on his home field. That ump is a complete moron and should be fired for making such a horrible call like that. He's been in world series' before and there's absolutely no excuse for a call like that. I don't care if he's not perfect or not. You can make that call with your eyes closed. Even if the runner was safe and the ump called him out, that runner's not going to give a ****. Did you see the expression on the runners face when he was called safe. Even he knew he was out. How the hell does every one know except for the guy making the call? What a complete douche bag. Have this guy fired.
 
It wasn't that bad of a call, but the worst timing for a bad call ever. If you watch the replay in live motion, it's pretty close. The ump was in a bad position though. This is why MLB needs reply and MLB should award the guy with a perfect game.
 
He was not in a bad position. He was in a great position to make that call. That's exactly where the guy is suppose to be to make a call like that. He even started to call him out in the beginning then hurry and changed his mind.
 
Perfect through eight and then Austin Jackson makes a highlight catch to keep it going in the ninth, only to have Joyce kick the **** out of the call. MLB is going to review the call and they can overturn it.
 
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