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You have a good heart & a great mind, babe. You & I have the same goals with this (as do most Americans I presume), even though we disagree with the consequences of our machinations. I'll give this a good response when I'm more able.
a variation...
actually, even better, let's go by Franklin's statement.
To confirm the honesty of his statement, it needs to be proven that the goals of all Americans have already been formulated in their minds, and they are all in agreement.
This requires a blind test with a 3rd party tabulation of the answers.
Let's do this, even better.
75% in agreement should be easy, right?
 
On second thought, I don't expect anyone to take the time to test Franklin's absurd claim.
You can take the far easier challenge I have made in posts #39+41, if you dare.
 
All kidding aside, I firmly believe we can obtain majority agreement as to what the goals are .. just don't think we'll agree on how we should go about reaching those goals.

Just curious where do you stand on health care?
 
To focus the discussion, Franklin was talking about "this issue"...
without defining what "this issue" is exactly.
That could be the first thing you get 75% of the forum to decide on, perhaps, what "this issue" is....
and then what the goals are regarding this issue. Let us make it this.
That will avoid getting into a meaningless laundry list of 30 different goals. Maybe.
 
Just curious where do you stand on health care?

Too complex of an issue to detail my thoughts completely on JazzFanz. Tips of the waves is I do believe there needs to be a better healthcare system than what we have seen in past decades. I do not, however, want to see healthcare erode into a completely government run system whereby many of the existing coverages go by the wayside and quality of care is dumbed down. I have many friends that are citizens of countries with national healthcare (Canada being one) that have come to the United States for care of their loved ones for varying reasons (coverages and quality being two). They all say the system works pretty well and is generally good, but awful when you have a serious problem and a loved one with a terminal illness .. or what doctors perceive as terminal.

I like having access to healthcare for everyone, but I do not believe in absolutes with regard to equality. I know that sounds harsh, but if one person has the ability to obtain superior care for a loved one, they ought be able to do so.
 
a variation...
actually, even better, let's go by Franklin's statement.
To confirm the honesty of his statement, it needs to be proven that the goals of all Americans have already been formulated in their minds, and they are all in agreement.
This requires a blind test with a 3rd party tabulation of the answers.
Let's do this, even better.
75% in agreement should be easy, right?

On second thought, I don't expect anyone to take the time to test Franklin's absurd claim.
You can take the far easier challenge I have made in posts #39+41, if you dare.

To focus the discussion, Franklin was talking about "this issue"...
without defining what "this issue" is exactly.
That could be the first thing you get 75% of the forum to decide on, perhaps, what "this issue" is....
and then what the goals are regarding this issue. Let us make it this.
That will avoid getting into a meaningless laundry list of 30 different goals. Maybe.

Your last three posts are so petty and begin from a negative slant that I don't know many that would want to take the time to start this conversation with you.
 
I have done all the work, and you just call names and cop out, as expected.
If the task was, let's team up on one poster we don't like to annoy and harass him, you'd have an energized base in no time getting right on it.
 
Your last three posts are so petty and begin from a negative slant that I don't know many that would want to take the time to start this conversation with you.
as if you and Franklin et al haven't been insulting me all over the place, even in threads i was not even posting on
 
Your last three posts are so petty and begin from a negative slant that I don't know many that would want to take the time to start this conversation with you.

illogical. your characterizations are off, but more importantly:

You* are the one who has been challenged to this task.
They would be starting the conversation with you*, not me.

* {I.L.H.}
 
as if you and Franklin et al haven't been insulting me all over the place, even in threads i was not even posting on

Yes, everyone has called each other names. However, in this example you were asking for a come-together-and-agree task .. which kind of suggests a temporary cease-fire. At least in my mind it does.

(I know, what I said is illogical)
 
I do not do what you and Franklin do, as described above.
The challenge stands. YOU would have the conversation with the board.
75%
active posters.
agreement on the goals of this issue.
 
It's unfortunate that "Ignore" only works on posts authored by the person you are ignoring. When they get quoted, you still have to read their drivel.
 
That being said... there are a lot of other factors besides volume of currency that contribute to fluctuations in the value of the dollar. That's a pretty large and complex issue in and of itself.

Not that I'm an advocate for the fiat money system - far from it - but one of the reasons we converted from a commodity-based standard to the fiat money standard was to try to stabilize (or at least, reduce) the fluctuations in currency value versus other currencies.

Personally, I think every country in the entire world should convert to a currency system based on the number of donuts consumed. We would SO have the highest value currency then.
 
Too complex of an issue to detail my thoughts completely on JazzFanz. Tips of the waves is I do believe there needs to be a better healthcare system than what we have seen in past decades. I do not, however, want to see healthcare erode into a completely government run system whereby many of the existing coverages go by the wayside and quality of care is dumbed down. I have many friends that are citizens of countries with national healthcare (Canada being one) that have come to the United States for care of their loved ones for varying reasons (coverages and quality being two). They all say the system works pretty well and is generally good, but awful when you have a serious problem and a loved one with a terminal illness .. or what doctors perceive as terminal.

I like having access to healthcare for everyone, but I do not believe in absolutes with regard to equality. I know that sounds harsh, but if one person has the ability to obtain superior care for a loved one, they ought be able to do so.

You seem to get the reality of the healthcare abroad. I try to talk to the German people I meet to get their honest opinions about
their health care (and other issues). I haven't met one that would trade their system for ours. I know they exist, but I haven't come across
one yet. On general basic services Germany is fine. Americans generally seem to offer the best specialized service, and for extreme cases. To say that other countries have horrible service, and are begging for our awesome doctors is wrong, or not the full story. I would say that we have the best
doctors for specialized care, but not all. People do come to Europe for treatments that are better here. Bob Marley came to Germany
for one of the best cancer specialists in the world. Kobe came for surgery over here as well. Just a few examples.

I'm most concerned that we take care of people as best we can, and also offer choice. I don't care how we get there, but I don't see the medical industry changing on it's own. The prices of medicine, and general care need to come down. We can't discriminate for pre-existing conditions. Obama's health care reform wasn't perfect, but the republicans did not help. The right demonized it from the start, and were more about spreading fear about it
then working on true solutions. I heard a lot more comments about the great evil dictator coming to turn us all into communism, that actual solutions or
desire to fix the system. Obama took a rough road against huge opposition from the right, and tried to do something. Ending up with a watered down
someone flawed system, but in my eyes the right direction.
 
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