JohnStockalypse
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catratcho said:
Because I'm not in 8th grade anymore and I have **** to do.
More federal stupidity...
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Because I'm not in 8th grade anymore and I have **** to do.
PearlWatson
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You could smoke it in between hilarious posts.
I have a friend who smoked marijuana for 18 years (from the time he was 18 to 36). I was telling him about the thread on here awhile back where people were saying that marijuana was a harmless drug. He said that was complete bs and told me that marijuana cost him his first marriage. His wife got fed up with him getting high all the time so she gave him the choice of marijuana or the family (her and their two daughters). He threw the car keys at her and told her to get out. While he was smoking he said he didn't care about his family, his job or anything, just getting that next high. It wasn't until his second wife gave him the same choice that he finally quit. I'm not saying that this is everyone's story but I'm sure there are other stories like this out there.
Don't get too excited, that's a Daniel Tosh joke.
PearlWatson
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I'll have to admit I got a little warm and juicy on that one but I mean how was I supposed to understand that it was a reference to a joke from a substandard comedian..?
So is it your position that states should be able to "under-rule" federal policies?
I mean, because that's a Supremacy Clause issue and if you believe that than apparently you just hate the US Constitution. Don't tell Millsapa or she'll get all her teabagger friends to do something unsavory in or near the area of your face.
Serious question here: by what authority does the federal government pass laws to say marijuana use is illegal? <quick google> Is it the "Necessary and Proper" clause?
Most likely the commerce clause.
First a quibble: My comment was in response to LG's (apparently incredulous) comment re: "if a state votes it legal for medical dispensing, the federal government not only still considers it entirely illegal ..." I don't think the notion that federal law supercedes state law when the two conflict is exactly controversial assuming both laws are valid. Your comment goes to a different issue entirely.
Second: The Necessary and Proper clause is never sufficient to give independant authority for federal government action. N&P merely expands other government powers. One Brow is right in saying that it's under the interstate commerce clause.
Third: There's actually a pretty recent Supreme Court case describing Marijuana regulation under the Commerce Clause. It was (I believe) a 6-3 with Scalia writing the opinion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzales_v._Raich
SaltyDawg
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FYI, this is nothing new:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/05/dea-led-by-bush-continues-pot-raids/
It was happening all the time under Bush, and Obama promised to stop it. The fact that there are dispensaries in plain sight in many states, shows that Obama has actually cut way down on the federal raids.
We're not where we should be, but we're a lot closer than we used to be.
And to answer a question- I stopped smoking weed because I got married and started having kids. I probably would smoke at least every now and then if it was legal to do so. I honestly have no idea why it isn't legal.
If I am driving at night and some other driver sharing the road with me is not sober, I would much prefer that intoxicated driver be high on weed rather than drunk on alcohol.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/05/dea-led-by-bush-continues-pot-raids/
It was happening all the time under Bush, and Obama promised to stop it. The fact that there are dispensaries in plain sight in many states, shows that Obama has actually cut way down on the federal raids.
We're not where we should be, but we're a lot closer than we used to be.
And to answer a question- I stopped smoking weed because I got married and started having kids. I probably would smoke at least every now and then if it was legal to do so. I honestly have no idea why it isn't legal.
If I am driving at night and some other driver sharing the road with me is not sober, I would much prefer that intoxicated driver be high on weed rather than drunk on alcohol.