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AKMVP said:
Yet there is numerous Muslim countries who deny education of women and kill girls who try to go to school. Hypocrites.
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Numerous Muslim COUNTRIES who deny education of women? Are you daft?



Do you realize that the first wife of the Prophet Muhammad was an educated merchant!!!! YOU are the hypocrite. Education is arguably the most FUNDAMENTALLY important aspect of islam
 
AKMVP said:
I would love to see Dalamon trying to defend Pakistani girl rights to go to school to Taliban in Pakistan or Afghanistan.
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Right, because the Taliban is such a wide-encompassing, large portion of Islam.
 
AKMVP said:
I would love to see Dalamon trying to defend Pakistani girl rights to go to school to Taliban in Pakistan or Afghanistan.
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It doesn't have to start out in a hostile situation like that. Of course it will take time. It'll have to start in small groups, etc.

You'll have to plan it.

Of course it won't be easy, but given the magnitude of the issue, it was never going to be easy.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Wow.. that's really great bro. This is EXACTLY what I was looking for.


What you said about "READ" is very important. It also lead to someone being able to "think". And if you think about it hard enough, one would realize that whoever created this earth & universe, created it with "Love" in mind. Why? Because that's the only way we can be happy and live without suffering. Love is truth.


Somebody needs to take this message of the Koran, and go out there and preach it to the "extremists" and show them that there is a better way.


If Christians can travel all over the world to Africa, etc, and convert them to Christianity. I do believe that Muslims can also reach out to their own people, the extremists more specifically, and show them a new way of looking at things.
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1. My advice would be, just read the Coran. My mum forced me to read the Bible and my dad the Coran. That's the only way to have an objective opinion about something: go back to the roots.

2. Extremists are no real Muslims in the view of the majority of Muslims (who, by the way, are moderate). They just use 'Islam' in a wrong way for their own might, power and own interests. Many of them are not well educated. They try to control the folk. A stupid folk is quite easy to influence. Islam only allows to protect yourself and you are not allowed to kill innocent people. Even in a war, you are not allowed to kill old people, women, children and handicaped people. If you wear a bomb and push the button and you die, you will go to hell according to Coran. It is the same as it is in the bible: you are not allowed to kill yourself.

If totalitarian theocracies preach 'the Islam', it's not the real Islam. It's an instrument to dominate your repressed folk. They change the Islam as much as it helps them holding their position and might in the country. The manipulated Islam is their aid...
 
AKMVP said:
I would love to see Dalamon trying to defend Pakistani girl rights to go to school to Taliban in Pakistan or Afghanistan.
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I would love to see you protect Jews next to Hitler. This would mean you get killed or tortured.

A real question: What is your education?
 
underKANTER said:
A real question: What is your education?
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I have Doctor's degree and Master of Science as well. Had offer for residency and PhD but declined as it was more important at that time to work and provide for my family. Why you asking? What difference it would make if I had no education at all?
 
dalamon said:
Do you realize that the first wife of the Prophet Muhammad was an educated merchant!!!! YOU are the hypocrite.
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And his wife nr.11 was 9 year old girl Aisha. Trust me, I read about life of Muhammad. I especially remember his role in Qurayza massacre. Maybe you can educate some fellows about it here?
 
AKMVP said:
And his wife nr.11 was 9 year old girl Aisha. Trust me, I read about life of Muhammad. I especially remember his role in Qurayza massacre. Maybe you can educate some fellows about it here?
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Do you ever stick to a single point? Or do you simply respond to people's posts with more attacks? The discussion was about education-- I utterly disassembled your argument, and now you waste my time with other nonsense.

PS: I couldn't give two ****s what your credentials are-- especially seeing as you easily could have paid off hilariously-corrupt Lithuanians 500€ for falsified diplomas.
 
AKMVP said:
There is big difference when we talking genocide and simple women rights for education.
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That's not what I mean. I was talking about protecting the rights of people next to radical extremists (A leader like Hitler or Terrorists) means putting your life in a dangerous position.
 
underKANTER said:
That's not what I mean. I was talking about protecting the rights of people next to radical extremists (A leader like Hitler or Terrorists) means putting your life in a dangerous position.
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You cannot reason with bigots. AKMVP will never budge on a single point, no matter how ridiculous, you're wasting your time trying.

This argument will only end once you concede that it is possible to generalize to an incredibly diverse population exceeding a billion from the relatively small handful of zealot extremists within that population.
 
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