More Muslim violence in Europe

[MVP]

About your question I didn't find a single contradiction in the Qur'an. The Qur'an says birds are held in the sky by Allah. The Qur'an also says that when we burn wood to make fire it isn't us that creates the fire. It is Allah since we are using wood provided by Allah. Everything is done because of Allah. God takes god gives.
In the example of a bird the bird is flying in air made by Allah, just like when we make fire we are burning wood provided by Allah.

Ok, this is exact interpretation which I find contradictory about you claiming to be man of science. Science gives perfect explanation why birds fly, or where the wood or fire comes from. Yet you knowing that dismiss it and claim it is Allah who holds every single bird in the sky. Sorry but that does not give you any credibility.

 

[Deleted member 848]

So it is ok for you to judge about corruption of Eastern European countries and about false diplomas based on couple people ( what countries there were from? ), but it is not ok for me to judge violent nature of Islam on countless terror acts and life of its prophet? Hypocrite as always.

A-Ha!!!! So you get upset when I generalize about YOUR ethnicity, yet you recklessly do so for my faith???


Well guess what big guy-- it was intentional. I am playing this off merely to give you a taste of your own medicine. In fact, as long as you generalize those of my faith, I'll generalize you with the wife-abusing, diploma-forging Lithuanians that I have personally met.

 

[MVP]

I'll generalize you with the wife-abusing, diploma-forging Lithuanians that I have personally met.

lol, ok, sure go ahead. Like I care. Does not change the fact that Islam is violent religion responsible for 270 mil killed people during it's existence.

 

[Deleted member 848]

lol, ok, sure go ahead. Like I care. Does not change the fact that Islam is violent religion responsible for 270 mil killed people during it's existence.

Sorry. Can't hear you from all the butthurt.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Hey AK how about them 4-5 guys drafted after Hayward that turned out much better? Landry Fields, Patrick Patterson. Ed Davis. Damn. Ur sew smart n alweiz rite hahalolllol I h8 multiculturalism it nevrr works lol but I stil liv in Canada

 

[MVP]

Hey AK how about them 4-5 guys drafted after Hayward that turned out much better? Landry Fields, Patrick Patterson. Ed Davis. Damn. Ur sew smart n alweiz rite hahalolllol I h8 multiculturalism it nevrr works lol but I stil liv in Canada

Never said they turned out much better. I said they had better rookie seasons then Hayward. Obviously right now if we look at all 3 seasons you can put Hayward ahead of them. And I never said I am always right what are you talking about?
I live in Canada as it has way more positives then negatives as a country. I am deeply concerned though about multiculturalism disaster in Europe and really hoping it is not going to reach such a level in Canada. Otherwise I might move in the future, that option is always there.

 

[One Brow]

I find it funny that the same people who say don't judge Islam by the acts of some are the same people advocating for gun control.

The difference is that those advocating for more gun control have statistics on their side, not anecdotes.

 

[One Brow]

I have not read this thread, but I did a search for Indonesia. No one seems to have mentioned it. Indonesia is the fourth-largest country in the world and had the plurality of Muslims. They are not free from terrorism, but it's not an issue there as it is in Iraq or Afghanistan. Anyone who thinks Islam is inherently repressive or violent needs to explain why Indonesia does not exhibit this. Anyone who thinks Islam rejects repression and violence needs to explain why it's so prevalent from Bangladesh to Mauritania.

Personally, I don't know how to tease out Islam from the other cultural aspects of Northern Africa, the Middle East, and South Central Asia. Culture is complicated and multi-faceted. Islam has a problem, but the problem is not just Islam.

 

[The Black Swordsman]

The difference is that those advocating for more gun control have statistics on their side, not anecdotes.

What statistics?

https://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp

Taking rights away from citizens is not the answer. It does more harm than good. Of course I expect irrational people to disagree with the facts.

 

[Gameface]

What statistics?

https://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp

Taking rights away from citizens is not the answer. It does more harm than good. Of course I expect irrational people to disagree with the facts.

Is it possible for two reasonable, rational, educated, well-informed people to disagree about something, or is that just an indication that one of them isn't really reasonable, rational, educated and well-informed?

 

[The Black Swordsman]

I have not read this thread, but I did a search for Indonesia. No one seems to have mentioned it. Indonesia is the fourth-largest country in the world and had the plurality of Muslims. They are not free from terrorism, but it's not an issue there as it is in Iraq or Afghanistan. Anyone who thinks Islam is inherently repressive or violent needs to explain why Indonesia does not exhibit this. Anyone who thinks Islam rejects repression and violence needs to explain why it's so prevalent from Bangladesh to Mauritania.

Personally, I don't know how to tease out Islam from the other cultural aspects of Northern Africa, the Middle East, and South Central Asia. Culture is complicated and multi-faceted. Islam has a problem, but the problem is not just Islam.

I never say Islam is a religion of peace. Islam is a religion of people. People can be peaceful and harmful.

Islam says to defend yourself. Some people use this to defend yourself against robbers. Some people use it like Osama and justify their actions as self defense.

This can be applied to nihilism as well. Some people are nihilistic and say "nothing matters so you might as well be a good guy and be a good person treating people good." Some people are nihilistic and become hedonists "nothing matters so might as well get as much pleasure as I possibly can through any means possible."

 

[GVC]

I have not read this thread, but I did a search for Indonesia. No one seems to have mentioned it. Indonesia is the fourth-largest country in the world and had the plurality of Muslims. They are not free from terrorism, but it's not an issue there as it is in Iraq or Afghanistan.

eh? Ethnic/Religious violence, including terrorism, is a pretty serious issue in Indonesia.