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Muhammad's mother's name........

Do you know Muhammad's mother's name?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2 28.6%

  • No

    Votes: 5 71.4%
  • Total voters
    7
dalamon said:
So oil, then. But why the sudden stop in scientific innovation centuries ago? Another interesting question to ponder.
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Muslim societies/empires didn't catch the Renaissance and Reform era of European culture. And they sunk in their own ignorance. You see, Marx defined those societies as Asiatic, some kind of society that differs essentially from the Western societies that he used his class-conflict theory upon. These Asiatic types had their tyrants, usually as a scepter-holder of God which strengthened their power of throne. And there was no Catholic Church and a truly feudal system that left the people subjects and rayah in a slavery situation like the serves of the Europe of Dark Age did -well at least there wasn't the emerging struggle between social-economical classes. Those societies did not live the conflicts Western ones did, they did not give birth to new social classes like the bourgeois or the workers (blue collars in the Mills terminology). The main thing that happened is the modernizing revolutions that were imposed from the top of the governmental hierarchy, and since those societies always had the religious leaders in their bodies that were able to hold on in the modernizing times, the revolutions screwed up, being incommunicado from the real "people" and instead becoming elitist oligarchies that were bound to lose their power. It happened in Iran, it's happening in Turkey, but the best and most interesting thing is, the new world we live in, the internet world, people reach every type of information from their home terminals and it is a lot, I mean A LOT harder to keep the new generation people ignorant as they were supposed to be for the interest of this nondemocratic system. I like the way the things are going. I think radical Islamism will start to decline in the decades that lies before us.
 
addictionary said:
UK and USA happened.
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Cop-out answer there. We don't like America and England so now we shoot children in the face if they don't know the name of Muhammed's mother. There was much greater animosity through the Crusades than there would have been due to the cotton gin.

Seriously, any guesses what happened?
 
addictionary said:
Muslim societies/empires didn't catch the Renaissance and Reform era of European culture. And they sunk in their own ignorance. You see, Marx defined those societies as Asiatic, some kind of society that differs essentially from the Western societies that he used his class-conflict theory upon. These Asiatic types had their tyrants, usually as a scepter-holder of God which strengthened their power of throne. And there was no Catholic Church and a truly feudal system that left the people subjects and rayah in a slavery situation like the serves of the Europe of Dark Age did -well at least there wasn't the emerging struggle between social-economical classes. Those societies did not live the conflicts Western ones did, they did not give birth to new social classes like the bourgeois or the workers (blue collars in the Mills terminology). The main thing that happened is the modernizing revolutions that were imposed from the top of the governmental hierarchy, and since those societies always had the religious leaders in their bodies that were able to hold on in the modernizing times, the revolutions screwed up, being incommunicado from the real "people" and instead becoming elitist oligarchies that were bound to lose their power. It happened in Iran, it's happening in Turkey, but the best and most interesting thing is, the new world we live in, the internet world, people reach every type of information from their home terminals and it is a lot, I mean A LOT harder to keep the new generation people ignorant as they were supposed to be for the interest of this nondemocratic system. I like the way the things are going. I think radical Islamism will start to decline in the decades that lies before us.
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Ok I missed this. Much better explanation. Ignorance apparently is not bliss.
 
Damn, just learned they killed a Turkish woman in the attacks too. Her being Turkish doesn't make it any more tragic but her being eight month pregnant definitely does. Furthermore, she was a Harvard graduate working there for their people as a malaria specialist.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/bill-c...-before-becoming-a-mother-20130924-2uaty.html

Definitely the most infernal comprehension of Islam and Jihad. You vile monsters, you deserve the eternal damnation and no doubt for me you will get it.
 
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Enes CanTear You Apart said:
Damn, just learned they killed a Turkish woman in the attacks too. Her being Turkish doesn't make it any more tragic but her being eight month pregnant definitely does. Furthermore, she was a Harvard graduate working there for their people as a malaria specialist.

Definitely the most infernal comprehension of Islam and Jihad. You vile monsters, you deserve the eternal damnation and no doubt for me you will get it.
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The older I get, the less I understand the world, and the less I like it.

What does killing unarmed people prove? What does killing a woman, a pregnant woman? Madness.
 
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The rumored mentor of the suicide bombers of Al-Shabab, Samantha Lewthwaite (British) is the wife of one of the bombers in the London attack after the nine eleven.
 
Enes CanTear You Apart said:
Damn, just learned they killed a Turkish woman in the attacks too. Her being Turkish doesn't make it any more tragic but her being eight month pregnant definitely does. Furthermore, she was a Harvard graduate working there for their people as a malaria specialist.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/bill-c...-before-becoming-a-mother-20130924-2uaty.html

Definitely the most infernal comprehension of Islam and Jihad. You vile monsters, you deserve the eternal damnation and no doubt for me you will get it.
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Wasn't Yavuz Memo's wife maiden name?
 
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