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My faith in Exum has been broken

Which brings us to a question...are the Jazz going to extend his rookie deal if he is going to show that he is way behind projected learning curve ( partially because of ACL injury). Knowing how conservative Jazz are with rookies and how rarely they extend just on potential ( what rookies they extend in last 15 years - AK, Hayward, Deron, Favors, Gobert, Burks and Millsap, thats it right?) I doubt we will see Exum in Jazz uniform past his rookie contract unless he makes huge improvement next year.
 
stitches said:
Oh I don't mind us trying to develop him. I'd love for him to succeed and make me eat crow. Just, my expectations and hopes for him have plummeted lately. As I said in the first post - I will believe it, when I see it.
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You're right dude. This forum believed for years that Tomic was ever going to come over or that Kanter was going to be a beast. Look how that turned out LOL
 
Exum's gonna be fine, it's not like he isn't improving.. If anything, hopefully some of his lackluster play will result in a nice cheap deal next summer. He'll hit his stride eventually.
 
stitches said:
I think watching Frank Ntilikina last couple of days broke my confidence in Exum. He's everything I wanted Exum to be + more. And the more I watched him the more I realized he has things that Exum never had and never will and those things are much more important in the league than marginal advantage in speed.

Exum was a great youth player and I was super high on him and I've been one of his biggest defenders on this board, but his handle and his shot were never good(and I expected he will improve but he has not progressed at all in those areas). He relied on quickness to beat people off the dribble and draw fouls and we've seen this just doesn't cut it in the league - you cannot live in the league on quickness when even when you beat your man, you don't have the touch to finish in the paint or the shot to pull up from midrange. I'd trade a bit of Exum's quickness for a lot more skill and shooting. With his shooting mechanic(his shot is a set shot), I don't EVER see him being able to shoot off the dribble consistently. Frank Ntilikina pulls up without a problem or hesitation, step backs... crossover into pullups... His handle is still shaky in traffic like Exum's, but I think I trust his skill and handle and shooting RIGHT NOW much more than I trust Exum's ... ever.

I think my faith in Exum has been broken... believe me, I'd love nothing more than for him to prove me wrong. A couple of years ago I got my first ever NBA jersey and was an Exum one, I really believed in him, but for various of reasons(the injury being the main one) it seems like he's not anywhere close to where we expected he'd be at this point. Of course, I'm open to be proven wrong, but at this point I'd say - I will believe it when I see it... Does that make me a bad fan?
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Mother Eff.... I had the exact same realization... Frank is the only PG I like out of this year's deep group. Projected late lotto and we could definitely move to that range to get him.
 
Crocodile Dante said:
exum again is very young and coming off a sever injury. I dont want to be an exum apologist but come on he is learning the hardest position in the NBA. I am happy with Hill for the next 3 to 5 years. Let Exum learn the game from a pro. Besides he will be on a cheap contract when he does eventually explode on the scene.
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He won't be cheap... will get paid on potential... we don't have the money to carry him as a developing player... he will need to be good by his next deal.

I thought I was over-reacting, but Stitches is pretty even and him being in the boat is making me feel even worse about Exum.
 
stitches said:
It's not just that it's set... it's the type of set shot it is. It's awkward as **** and he needs a ton of space to get it off! Please tell me I'm not imagining this. I seriously cannot see him EVER being successful in the pullup game with this shot.
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It is loaded up slow and too far in front of him.. the follow through is fine. I think he becomes a reliable spot up shooter, but I'm not sure if he ever gets decent off the dribble.

Ingles shot is slow but it is high and over his head.
 
PG_AB said:
Exum's gonna be fine, it's not like he isn't improving.. If anything, hopefully some of his lackluster play will result in a nice cheap deal next summer. He'll hit his stride eventually.
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he's certainly gone back into his shell in recent weeks, but the stuff he was doing early in the year was a massive improvement on his rookie year. So early into the comeback year after his ACL is way too early to judge. I don't think we'll really know what he is going to be until later next season or even the year after that.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc3h_YZh6wk

@ 0:55 is what I think is one of his only pull up mid range makes of his career. It looked OK to me. It could be a little faster, but I dont think it's broken or anything that should hold him back.
 
The thing is, that with our team, a Dante Exum pull-up shot will almost always be a waste of a possession, so he doesn't do them. It's why he needs to go to the D-League so he can have more freedom to try these kind of things.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
It is loaded up slow and too far in front of him.. the follow through is fine. I think he becomes a reliable spot up shooter, but I'm not sure if he ever gets decent off the dribble.

Ingles shot is slow but it is high and over his head.
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Maybe, but Dante being able to get his shot off hasnt been a problem in the NBA at all.
 
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