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My faith in Exum has been broken

Its quite clear that Exum scared and mentally slow.

I don't expect him to ever be a good NBA player. Fringe maybe, but that's it.

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Cunning Linguist said:
LOL. Just realized Cy was the same guy who like Ty Corbin I think (hence Cyrone Torbin) and wanted to give him a chance. Sometimes, things are just so blatantly obvious and it's clear that Exum isn't very good.
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Yeah, not the reason for my name at all. Just needed a name change after Dwill trade and I thought it sounded funny.

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Handlogten's Heros said:
I think Exum is an NBA player but expectations need to seriously be lowered. My whole problem is he can be okay/solid but there is nothing I think is super special... it happens and it's okay to acknowledge it and move on. He will be paid a premium for what he is in a year and a half which is when we have some serious cap crunches. His development just won't happen fast enough to add a lot of value. Some of that is not his fault with the injury.

I just think we might get more value by moving on and long term it might be a better fit for him too. We continue down this path with him it may prove to be quite costly.
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Is he though? Imagine he never improves his shot and handle(he doesn't seem to have improved them noticeably since we drafted him). Is he an NBA player? Imagine he is not as good as Andre Roberson on D. Now imagine you cannot give him the ball to create anything on offense and you cannot create 3p shots for him on offense cause he's hitting them at 30%... Is he an NBA player if that's the case?
 
stitches said:
This has nothing to do with his ACL injury and his rehabilitation. I was defending him against people saying he's playing bad just a week ago. I'm not criticizing him for playing bad - I expected that and I didn't have high hopes for his season. I defended him just a week ago when people were saying he's made no strides. This is NOT true... he's much more aggressive and he's going to the rim a lot more and finishing better(still not great) there. Here Quin is doing him no favors like someone mentioned above. I think he's being mishandled. You cannot tell a player, I want you to be more aggressive, you can't be afraid to make mistakes and then when he does it, you yank him out of the game on every mistake he makes. This is not helping.

I'm talking strictly skills and projecting his skills for the future here. If he's ever going to have a consistent pullup game, I think he probably needs to break down and reconstruct his whole shot. I can't see him ever being a threat off the dribble with his current one. And when we are talking about dribble - it's ridiculous how shaky his handle is. I've never seen a PG with more shaky handles especially against pressure or in traffic. I see very little improvement from when he entered the league and with him being sidelined for more than a year, for more than half of which he was probably able to work on it, I expected to see serious progress. It's not there. He still has no hesitation move, he still can't split a double team to save his life. Those are relatively simple things and things any PG in the league should have.
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No hesitation moves? He has had several.

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stitches said:
Is he though? Imagine he never improves his shot and handle(he doesn't seem to have improved them noticeably since we drafted him). Is he an NBA player? Imagine he is not as good as Andre Roberson on D. Now imagine you cannot give him the ball to create anything on offense and you cannot create 3p shots for him on offense cause he's hitting them at 30%... Is he an NBA player if that's the case?
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Yeah... he's a rotation player. He will grow and he is fast. He will be able to be a decent scorer/driver and is a decent cutter. I don't think he is as good as Roberson on D, but will be able to shoot better than him. One thing lacking in our coaching on defense is teaching guys to take charges. We absolutely suck at it and Dante could be awesome at it... I watch guys drive into his chest as he moves his feet and they knock him back... if he freezes before the contact and hits the deck it's a charge more often than not... Hire JJ Barea or Derek Fisher for a day... teach him the art.

An NBA player is a dude that is in the league... Exum will be that. I think he's the PG version of CJ Miles.
 
stitches said:
Examples? Are you talking about his staple refusal of the screen on the left wing, where from standstill he suddenly crosses over to the left and explodes baseline? I don't really consider this hesitation.
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No, he has shown in and out dribble moves and hang dribble hesitations with change of speed.

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He has in and out dribble, I know that, but I don't think it's with change of speed.
 
The biggest thing I notice on Exum dribbling is that it gets higher when he aggressively drives and has contact. That is when most of his lost ball turnovers have occurred.

When he has some space and is able to go to his quick cross or in and out, its pretty tight and compact for a player his size.

Added strength should help as his body matures and he is better able to absorb contact and maintain control of the ball.

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Exum's handles are so wack. He will never be a good guard without them.

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Its so weird why people on this site defend Exum. If Exum was on another team. Not one person here would think he is good, or going to be good.

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