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My frontline can beat up your frontline - Why I'm giddy.

I have been on this bandwagon all year. I started seeing it right after the Christmas break. We were keeping up with teams that we shouldn't have been. The last 3 years under Corbin, I knew when a blowout would happen. And 9 times out of 10, I wouldn't even watch the games. But when we beat the bulls in Chicago this year. And the way we beat them. I looked at my wife, and I said "Oh ****, ****, bitch and ***! In 3 years time, we could be very very ****ing dangerous."

And the beauty of it. The NBA can't stop it. We are building a defensive mad house. And I looooooove it!

Not to mention also beating GSW, Spurs and POR ... all quality opponents.


Now if we can just limit losses to the likes of the Lakers....
 
If I'm not mistaken BPM doesn't "include team performance" but rather adjusts for it. Trying to make it as apples to apples as possible for players on winning vs losing teams.

BTW, at the game on Saturday I was ticked off with Rudy's block count - I had him for 5 by half quite clearly and they only credited him with I think 3 for the whole game.
Oh, ok. I misinterpreted your post. Thanks for clarifying.

Just my impression, but it seems like most of the players on the list are high scorers, so it's impressive for Rudy to be way up there. And to a lesser extent, Favors.
 
Wow very well thought out. My worry again is about Exum... Dude needs to hurry up and develop because these guys are ready to be a playoff team. I wonder if adding a really good offensive player who is a bad perimeter defender would hurt us defensively. Having those guys in the middle fixes so much. Guys can gamble more on the perimeter and it doesn't cost us as much.

Overall I am ecstatic with where we are headed. I'd love to add a more dynamic wing, maybe Exum or burks will be that, to go along with this crew. We need to win the freakin lotto and get Russell. Dal needs to start doing his prayer stuff to make it happen.
 
Based on this list...Rudy is the best Center in the entire NBA. Not bad...

Stats can only go so far but pretty impressive for sure.

By the way the quick follow up to this to show what a bump in guard performance would do, meaning some combination of Dante uses those freak genes to become Batman, Burke steps up his Assist% and D, Burks returns healthier then ever, we make a move with Kanter money in FA this summer, or the ping pong balls fall our way in May. And by the way ALL of these are reasonably likely.

Our guard performance is horrible. As in all WELL below even low end starter level ball. List below includes everyone with 500 min or more this year - anyone who has seen decent usage essentially. Pretty much nobody, even in the East, whose playoff bound would start any of the guys that have gotten minutes.

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I think a guy who is slightly older but who brings his value in shooting (read: Wes Matthews) could actually be a giant help - by the end of his deal he will be moving into a lesser role, but he will help us get to a competitive level a hell of a lot faster. Without a signing of a guy who can really play NOW, we are going to be close but frustratingly inconsistent the next couple of years while we wait on Exum, Burke, Burks, etc.

Edit: Kanter's stats are exactly what I would expect. Good offensive player, but SO BAD defensively that his overall metrics are dog****.
 
Stats can only go so far but pretty impressive for sure.

By the way the quick follow up to this to show what a bump in guard performance would do, meaning some combination of Dante uses those freak genes to become Batman, Burke steps up his Assist% and D, Burks returns healthier then ever, we make a move with Kanter money in FA this summer, or the ping pong balls fall our way in May. And by the way ALL of these are reasonably likely.

Our guard performance is horrible. As in all WELL below even low end starter level ball. List below includes everyone with 500 min or more this year - anyone who has seen decent usage essentially. Pretty much nobody, even in the East, whose playoff bound would start any of the guys that have gotten minutes.

jazz-vorp-bpm-per.png
Interesting that our best Guard with your stat is the much maligned Jingles.
 
I think a guy who is slightly older but who brings his value in shooting (read: Wes Matthews) could actually be a giant help - by the end of his deal he will be moving into a lesser role, but he will help us get to a competitive level a hell of a lot faster. Without a signing of a guy who can really play NOW, we are going to be close but frustratingly inconsistent the next couple of years while we wait on Exum, Burke, Burks, etc.

Edit: Kanter's stats are exactly what I would expect. Good offensive player, but SO BAD defensively that his overall metrics are dog****.

Matthews at 28 isn't bad. "Old" only by current Jazz standards :) Could still be solid when the rest peak in 2-3.

Interesting that our best Guard with your stat is the much maligned Jingles.

Completely love what Jingles does with what Jingles has but "best" is so damn relative here it's like the best July day in Phoenix.
 
Matthews at 28 isn't bad. "Old" only by current Jazz standards :) Could still be solid when the rest peak in 2-3.



Completely love what Jingles does with what Jingles has but "best" is so damn relative here it's like the best July day in Phoenix.
I understand. It's just that looking at these #'s makes him look even more like a rotation player. I don't think he's a starting quality player for a contender. But I fully believe he can be a rotation player for a team like that.
 
I understand. It's just that looking at these #'s makes him look even more like a rotation player. I don't think he's a starting quality player for a contender. But I fully believe he can be a rotation player for a team like that.

Yes. Especially in situational moments when he shines like some of those early season inbound plays.
 
Nice thread. Just noticed it. I agree too. I wouldn't take another front line over this one either.
 
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