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Name a better wing rotation than Hayward Hood Burks

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dalamon said:
there was no available wing better than Burks that could be had for anything below near-max money.
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Wes Matthews originally signed for 4/57. I think he's a better fit on this team than Burks. Would I like paying him that much? Not really. But there's one example.
 
Howard said:
And that's a fair, and logical argument. I'm not saying we did it wrong, just that there are other options, and I prefer adding talent when possible. I don't view Burks as a solid piece of our future, so if we could have signed somebody that could adequately replace him, and then trade Burks to improve another piece of our team, I would've been fine with that. I'm also ok with what we did. However, at some point we do need to upgrade our roster. That's all I'm saying.
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That's all fair.
Jazz did the right thing last summer. It's all working out right before our eyes.
I think we all agree on that. (Which is what dala and I have been trying to say)
 
ncoloradojazz said:
Klay, Barnes, Iggy off the top of my head is better
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I take Hayward over klay, hood over iggy, and burls and barnes is debatable.

Oh wait, ncoloradojazz? Lolololol.
Nevermind, carry on
 
Howard said:
I get that, but how are we to say Hood doesn't outplay that guy and get the starting job? How can I say that he wouldn't have improved just as much by playing 28 minutes a game? Most of a players improvement comes during practice and what not. Again, all I'm saying is that we don't know.
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I don't disagree with your overall point that it's impossible to know. But will say that I'd rather Hood play 35 minutes the way he's currently playing at age 23 than than some 28-30 wing who isn't as good and doesn't have the upside taking a bulk of those minutes and Hood just getting 25-28 minutes.
 
Howard said:
And that's a fair, and logical argument. I'm not saying we did it wrong, just that there are other options, and I prefer adding talent when possible. I don't view Burks as a solid piece of our future, so if we could have signed somebody that could adequately replace him, and then trade Burks to improve another piece of our team, I would've been fine with that. I'm also ok with what we did. However, at some point we do need to upgrade our roster. That's all I'm saying.
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I think we nailed what we did. Developed Hood & let him explode, still have Burks around and have incredible trade flexibility to target almost any roster-need while still keeping our core intact.

I'm really insure with Burks, and I also would rather have Batum or Bazemore (or someone) as our 3rd wing. i just don't think that Batum is willing to accept the role as 3rd wing, and Bazemore might command too many dollars for a 3rd wing.

Your Winslow proposition is an interesting one, but a risky one. It's hard to have wings out there who can't hit shots, particularly threes. Tony Green or PJ Tucker could provide similar production for less? Who knows.
 
Howard said:
I get that, but how are we to say Hood doesn't outplay that guy and get the starting job? How can I say that he wouldn't have improved just as much by playing 28 minutes a game? Most of a players improvement comes during practice and what not. Again, all I'm saying is that we don't know.
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You are right we don't know that stuff.

But there is something we do know. Hood, hayward, and Burks might be the best wing tandem in the world. We don't have to speculate or wonder. It's happening. So the jazz did the right thing by not getting a big name free agent wing last year. Which is what this argument (cake baking vs not last summer) is about
 
A.) Hood has progressed much faster than I expected him to. He's looking like a major steal and a core player now.

B.) I had no problem chasing a wing (for the right price) in free agency because I like Burks better off the bench and I didn't think Hood would be ready to start any way near as well as he has. Thankfully, the prices were too much and not worth the investment.

C.) Jazz realistically could have either extended Carroll on the cheap back in 2013 OR drafted Antetokounmpo instead of Burke OR signed Bazemore for cheap in 2014 OR signed Casspi for cheap this year even after they had drafted Hood. That's 4 scenarios that would have been an upgrade to Jingles/CJ/Millsap that the Jazz realistically could have done to add to Hayward/Burks. Key would have still been drafting Hood in 2014 though, and it's anyone's guess as to if they'd have still done that with good depth at the position.

D.) With Hood's development, I'd still try hard to get a meeting with Durant. KD is one of the few guys that would be an upgrade to Hood in the starting lineup. Other than that, Id say that you look to upgrade CJ as the 5th wing and hope the guy you get can push Jingles down to #5.
 
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fishonjazz said:
That's all fair.
Jazz did the right thing last summer. It's all working out right before our eyes.
I think we all agree on that. (Which is what dala and I have been trying to say)
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Considering we don't know what the outcome would have been if we had done otherwise, we can't really say for sure we did the right thing. I'd still like to see a larger sample size.
 
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