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Name a better wing rotation than Hayward Hood Burks

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GVC said:
What does Burks do well?
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Name a player the anti-cakebakers wanted that is having a better season than either Burks or Hood.

The very objective "Burks is a mirage" assessment ain't gonna cut it.
 
GVC said:
And then not finish. He's shooting .387 from 3, and apparently is good at getting to the rim and drawing fouls, yet still has a **** .518 TS%. Doesn't add up.
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He's 23.

He has a great skill set, he's young and improving and his contract is insanely good especially moving forward.

What is the point of taking the stance that you have taken? If not Burks than who?
 
fishonjazz said:
I didn't say that you want tucker instead of burks. I was just showing his numbers and comparing them with our third wing since gvc talked about getting a third wing and you suggested tucker.

for a 4th wing? sure i dont care about 4th wings all that much.
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Lmfao at the proposition that the anti cake-bakers were targeting low-budget 4th wings.
 
GVC said:
1. He can't really run the point. He has very poor feel for team basketball in general.

2. For all his moves and speed/athleticism, he can't seem to score efficiently at all (to be fair, he's asked to create a lot in short shot clocks).

3. Yeah, his D is ****ty.

I'm not seeing it. With Hood emergence, the improvements from Burke and Neto, and Exum's eventual return, the Jazz would gain more with a defender and/or spot-up shooter at the wing than they'd lose from Burks (which really isn't much to begin with).
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He cant run the point? Too bad nba coaches dont understand that.
The rest of your post has some good points and pleny of merit. We just simply disagree.
btw, run the numbers but i think burks is a better spot up shooter than all those big name free agent wings from last summer during this season iirc. As for defense? burks is 24 and may be able to get better. Plus i think that with favors and gobert holding it down our defense will be very good regardless of who else is our there. We do need offense though. especially off the bench. (Something burks can provide)

I hear it said that burks is inefficient scoring but i see his points per game vs his shots per game and they seem to be better than all those big name free agent wings from last summer too. (shoots better pecentages from everywhere and gets to the line more)
 
Someone find me one single post in 2015 where people were clamouring after PJ Tucker.
 
dalamon said:
Name a player the anti-cakebakers wanted that is having a better season than either Burks or Hood.

The very objective "Burks is a mirage" assessment ain't gonna cut it.
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My point hasn't been that the Jazz needed to move Burks; just that they could have added talent without sacrificing minutes -- which is effectively the anti-cake-baker argument.

For the third time, Booker, Lyles, Ingles, Withey, Johnson, Millsap, Pleiss and O'Brien have played a combined 3983 minutes this season. Plenty of minutes for more talent.
 
GVC also forgetting the bomb-*** contract Burks is on relative to his contract--important when considering the $$ we'll need to pay for Hood and Hayward.


Who is this big defensive wing with a three point shot that we'll be able to get for an affordable price tag? Are we going to drop 3 maxes on wings when we have Gobert, Favors, and a PG to worry about?
 
GVC said:
My point hasn't been that the Jazz needed to move Burks; just that they could have added talent without sacrificing minutes -- which is effectively the anti-cake-baker argument.

For the third time, Booker, Lyles, Ingles, Withey, Johnson, Millsap, Pleiss and O'Brien have played a combined 3983 minutes this season. Plenty of minutes for more talent.
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A disingenuous argument when not having the intellectual honesty to remember that the Jazz have had the greatest injury problems in the NBA this season, and have been more injured than the past 10 seasons worth of Jazz teams.
 
You're going to be burned 9 times out of 10 when you're making roster decisions with the expectation that you'll be starting only 2 of your top players for huge stretches of the season.
 
dalamon said:
A disingenuous argument when having the intellectual honesty to remember that the Jazz have had the greatest injury problems in the NBA this season, and have been more injured than the past 10 seasons worth of Jazz teams.
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3983 is a lot of minutes. Enough that I don't have to lean on disingenuity. The Jazz still need more talent. Good players on good contracts can be moved if the cap situation or rotation realities make it necessary.
 
GVC said:
And then not finish. He's shooting .387 from 3, and apparently is good at getting to the rim and drawing fouls, yet still has a **** .518 TS%. Doesn't add up.
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I get it that you dont thinks burks is good enough to be a 3rd wing.
So who is the player that was available to get that shoots a better .518 TS% with as much upside as burks on a reasonable contract?
 
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