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NBA.com Dunk of Night with ex-Jazz Enes Kanter

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I'm Turkish. I'm sooooo happy that we've got rid of him eventhough we haven't got anything in return.
Overpaid one way liability...

Disrespectful, unprofessional... Should i keep going? Oh yea he can score....

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GVC said:
Some straw man...

I've consistently referred to real/regularized +/-, as raw +/- is not nearly as useful. The same goes for the player tracking rim protection stats (I have no idea what nylon calculus is), where Kanter is currently 68th of 91 players who have defended 100+ shots near the rim (several of those below him are perimeter players). It's also worth mentioning that the quality of players shooting at the rim is almost certainly lower for those coming off the bench.

Try again, fanboy.
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According to RPM Gobert is worse at defense than Nene Hilario, Jared Sullinger, and Festus Ezeli. In fact Gobert is ranked 25th in the NBA for centers. Just to remind you there are 30 teams in the NBA.

I never said it was you in particular that refered to raw +/- in the past.

Since you state you don't use nylon calculus and then went on to use it I will address it. Kanter went from the very bottom of nylon calculus to right around the bottom third. It still isn't great but he is improving on a weakness while his strengths are getting better as well. Nylon calculus actually normalizes for power fowards btw so having power forwards ranked above him doesn't mean they protect the rim better.
 
The Blue Elephant said:
According to RPM Gobert is worse at defense than Nene Hilario, Jared Sullinger, and Festus Ezeli. In fact Gobert is ranked 25th in the NBA for centers. Just to remind you there are 30 teams in the NBA.
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1. And? I didn't say anything about Gobert, who continues to rate much better than Kanter in both defensive RPM and total RPM.

2. It's probably worth mentioning that Gobert ranked 4th among centers last season, and has only played 14 games this season. There's enough noise over a 14 game sample that the stat isn't terribly meaningful. Kanter's scored terribly in RPM going on three seasons now.

The Blue Elephant said:
Since you state you don't use nylon calculus and then went on to use it I will address it. Kanter went from the very bottom of nylon calculus to right around the bottom third. It still isn't great but he is improving on a weakness while his strengths are getting better as well. Nylon calculus actually normalizes for power fowards btw so having power forwards ranked above him doesn't mean they protect the rim better.
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1. The rim protection stats are taken directly from NBA.com.

2. What exactly does "normalizes for power forwards" mean with respect to rim protection stats? I have a feeling you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

3. You've failed to address the point I was making: Kanter consistently rates poorly in regularized/real adjusted plus-minus. By the best publicly available measure, Kanter has a significant negative effect on his teams' performance.
 
//r00t 4 Jazz said:
I have no illusions, if Kanter would or could've excepted the first big off the bench role getting 20min a night (like he is in OKC), I'm sure the Jazz would've loved keeping him but he wasn't. He was getting played and used more here in UT then he is currently in OKC and the Jazz weren't going to pay him what he is getting now.

The difference is he just was not happy here for whatever the reason he just didn't want to be here period. Now playing on a team with Durant and Westbrook and just growing up and getting older along with now this year getting what is it 16mil he's probably pretty happy good for him.

Can we move along now.
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No. Let's talk moar kanthorr!
 
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