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NBA.com Rookie Ladder: Trey Burke #3

Eenie-Meenie said:
I think it's a bit premature to hype Burke. He hasn't done that much yet. Made a bunch of wide open shots, a few good drives to the hoop, and been competent handling the ball. But not much pressure has been put on him; teams have been giving him the shots. Still only averaging 3-4 assists, which isn't good for a PG.
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You act as if making wide open shots is so easy a caveman could do it...ask Gordon Hayward how wide open shots have been working for him this year. The Jazz without Trey in the lineup is like driving a car without a steering wheel...he deserves the hype.
 
fgcamel said:
Somebody should make a "Burke's rise to the Greatest Jazz point guard of All Time!" Thread
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Thought about that, but:
1. It is a LOT of work.
2. We have actually had it pretty good with PGs on the Jazz. Ricky Green, to Johnny Stockton, to DWill is a pretty superior run. We have had some scrubs as backups but the sheer volume and putridness is nowhere near the level we have endured at the center position.
3. Gobert has actually passed 3 more centers that I need to update. That there is a full time job. . .
 
fgcamel said:
So you don't ever want to have a player accomplish more than stockton?
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I'd love that but it is unrealistic. We will never see another Stockton anywhere in the NBA in our lifetime. For example:

Stockton's assist record will never be broken. He is 3,715 assists over #2 (Jason Kidd retired).

There are only 2 active players in the top 25:

Steve Nash is at #4. He is 5,528 behind Stockton. His career assist average is 8.5 a game. He would have to average that for another 8 years. That will make him 47...

Andre Miller, the other active player, is at #9. He is 7,787 behind Stockton. His career average is 7 apg. He would have to average that for 13 1/2 more years to beat Stockton. That would make him 50.

Chris Paul is not even top 25 yet. He still has 573 assists to go to even tie number 25 (His average suggests he gets there the end of this year).
 
Stoked said:
I'd love that but it is unrealistic. We will never see another Stockton anywhere in the NBA in our lifetime. For example:

Stockton's assist record will never be broken. He is 3,715 assists over #2 (Jason Kidd retired).

There are only 2 active players in the top 25:

Steve Nash is at #4. He is 5,528 behind Stockton. His career assist average is 8.5 a game. He would have to average that for another 8 years. That will make him 47...

Andre Miller, the other active player, is at #9. He is 7,787 behind Stockton. His career average is 7 apg. He would have to average that for 13 1/2 more years to beat Stockton. That would make him 50.

Chris Paul is not even top 25 yet. He still has 573 assists to go to even tie number 25 (His average suggests he gets there the end of this year).
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I think this list shows how good Stock was more than any other

Season average assists per game
1. John Stockton* 14.54 1989-90 UTA
2. John Stockton* 14.20 1990-91 UTA
3. Isiah Thomas* 13.86 1984-85 DET
4. John Stockton* 13.76 1987-88 UTA
5. John Stockton* 13.73 1991-92 UTA
6. John Stockton* 13.63 1988-89 UTA
7. Kevin Porter 13.40 1978-79 DET
8. Magic Johnson* 13.06 1983-84 LAL
9. Magic Johnson* 12.83 1988-89 LAL
10. Magic Johnson* 12.60 1985-86 LAL
11. John Stockton* 12.57 1993-94 UTA
12. Magic Johnson* 12.57 1984-85 LAL
13. Magic Johnson* 12.52 1990-91 LAL
14. John Stockton* 12.33 1994-95 UTA
15. Kevin Johnson 12.23 1988-89 PHO
16. Magic Johnson* 12.21 1986-87 LAL
17. John Stockton* 12.04 1992-93 UTA
18. Magic Johnson* 11.92 1987-88 LAL
19. Rajon Rondo 11.70 2011-12 BOS
20. Steve Nash 11.63 2006-07 PHO
 
Stoked said:
I'd love that but it is unrealistic. We will never see another Stockton anywhere in the NBA in our lifetime. For example:

Stockton's assist record will never be broken. He is 3,715 assists over #2 (Jason Kidd retired).

There are only 2 active players in the top 25:

Steve Nash is at #4. He is 5,528 behind Stockton. His career assist average is 8.5 a game. He would have to average that for another 8 years. That will make him 47...

Andre Miller, the other active player, is at #9. He is 7,787 behind Stockton. His career average is 7 apg. He would have to average that for 13 1/2 more years to beat Stockton. That would make him 50.

Chris Paul is not even top 25 yet. He still has 573 assists to go to even tie number 25 (His average suggests he gets there the end of this year).
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Iawtp

I can't see anyone ever catching up.

That just happened.
 
framer said:
Thought about that, but:
1. It is a LOT of work.
2. We have actually had it pretty good with PGs on the Jazz. Ricky Green, to Johnny Stockton, to DWill is a pretty superior run. We have had some scrubs as backups but the sheer volume and putridness is nowhere near the level we have endured at the center position.
3. Gobert has actually passed 3 more centers that I need to update. That there is a full time job. . .
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I see what you mean, its too bad I have really enjoyed the gobert thread
Stoked said:
I'd love that but it is unrealistic. We will never see another Stockton anywhere in the NBA in our lifetime. For example:

Stockton's assist record will never be broken. He is 3,715 assists over #2 (Jason Kidd retired).

There are only 2 active players in the top 25:

Steve Nash is at #4. He is 5,528 behind Stockton. His career assist average is 8.5 a game. He would have to average that for another 8 years. That will make him 47...

Andre Miller, the other active player, is at #9. He is 7,787 behind Stockton. His career average is 7 apg. He would have to average that for 13 1/2 more years to beat Stockton. That would make him 50.

Chris Paul is not even top 25 yet. He still has 573 assists to go to even tie number 25 (His average suggests he gets there the end of this year).
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Hahaha I knowwe will never see another Stockton I was just messing with you. I just wanted ton see how he progresses against the others
 
framer said:
Thought about that, but:
1. It is a LOT of work.
2. We have actually had it pretty good with PGs on the Jazz. Ricky Green, to Johnny Stockton, to DWill is a pretty superior run. We have had some scrubs as backups but the sheer volume and putridness is nowhere near the level we have endured at the center position.
3. Gobert has actually passed 3 more centers that I need to update. That there is a full time job. . .
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Neg for leaving off Lopez and Arroyo.
 
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