The Thriller
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I thought the owner was Russian? Wasn’t that why AK47 went there back in the day?
Nba don't want the Jazz to win the title.
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Uhh, nearly everyone stays with the team that drafted them for the first 7 years minimum. At some point the balance sheet gets too high and the teams cant get anymore talent because they dont have the cap space and they arent getting high picks because they are a good team. That's when stars should leave and that's when most do. I dont think stars sticking on their OG team only to be a middling team with no real contention hopes is good for the NBA.
A bunch of washed vets and a guy who has never impacted winning joining the marquee teams isnt some huge balance changer.
framer
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The Lakers were *** for most of the decade. Did people stop being Lakers fans? A lot of the championships were won by San Antonio who lacked marketable stars. Did the NBA suffer? The Knicks have been terrible for a lot longer. Has the NBA intervened to put them back into contention?
In actuality, the NBA would be better served by allowing other teams to have success. How many 12 year olds in Minnesota are jonesing to watch a Timberwolves game? Do they become Laker fans or just follow hockey or the NFL instead. The bandwagoners aren't going anywhere, and it is stupid to build a league that caters to them. The NFL doesn't do this and they are the most successful American sports league by a mile. If you were around when the Jazz went to the finals you saw that many casual people who would probably never follow the NBA were made lifetime fans by that two year run. What if other cities never get that run?
The Jazz were in the most watched finals. People may not have tuned into see the Jazz, but the Jazz narrative as a part of that series was strong. If the Jazz had been upset by the Spurs, do you think more people tune in? No because people were interested in Jordan being tested by a titan.
If Utah matches up against the Nets, the viewership won't be any less than if it were the Lakers. Maybe more because there are a lot of fans that would be sickened by a Lakers/Nets matchup. A plucky Cinderella against the largest Superteam of all time (part 2) is a much better story.
Red
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I forget the Russian’s name, but he sold the team to Alibaba co-founder Joseph Tsai in 2019.
Max Porter
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I don’t know what the league can do to stop super teams from forming but it’s becoming a real problem. It doesn’t make it feel like a real championship if a super team wins. Golden state with KD is not a championship, it’s automatic and inevitable.
It’s like high school players beating elementary basketball players then pretending they won something substantial and showering themselves with champagne. It’s not impressive haha it’s weak.
Those warriors wins were way more impressive before KD joined the team because they built something through the draft, through chemistry, through innovative play and toughness.
It sucks when your team works hard to get to the top of the league, then a huge market team just casually adds two good pieces from the buyout because players want to ride the coat tails of others.
It’s like high school players beating elementary basketball players then pretending they won something substantial and showering themselves with champagne. It’s not impressive haha it’s weak.
Those warriors wins were way more impressive before KD joined the team because they built something through the draft, through chemistry, through innovative play and toughness.
It sucks when your team works hard to get to the top of the league, then a huge market team just casually adds two good pieces from the buyout because players want to ride the coat tails of others.
Max Porter
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So when KD, an mvp, left for a historically good warriors team when Okc nearly beat them in the playoffs it’s good he left because he’d be a washed veteran otherwise? Haha what? Lebron left Cleveland in his prime to join a super team because he would’ve been washed if he stayed?
Yeah many players are washed that leave their original teams - that’s not the issue. The issue is mvp caliber players going to already stacked teams and zero mvp player calibers willingly go elsewhere or willingly going to smaller markets. The best players always leave small markers for big markets, almost NEVER the other way around. This creates an enormous unfair advantage to large markets.
Ok?
Change the team you like then if it bothers you so much. The washed players i'm referring to are Griffin and LMA. Drummond is the guy with no impact on winning in his career.
And yes, I think the NBA imporved with Lebron going to Miami. I think the NBA improved with KD going to GSW. It made for interesting storylines. It creates teams people love to hate. Parity is extremely overrated.
He is Taiwanese, which is Chinese ethnically. But as you may know, its a group of Chinese that fled China when the communist party took power. But he was a founding member of one of the biggest companies in China. But I dont think he has much interest in pushing mainland China agenda.
The Thriller
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The NFL says hi!
The NFL is popular for a lot of reasons and parity isnt one of them.
Tom Brady says hi!
Lol you mean the league where one QB has been to the SB 10 times in under two decades?
The league where you won’t win unless you have an elite QB and/or elite D?
The mailman
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Uhh... I don’t quite follow. The point is... Jordan never went ring chasing. He stayed with 1 team and then... when he felt he could no longer be the best... he retired - just like John Stockton and Reggie Miller. The original point was that... LBJ is no Jordan.
LBJ is definitely no Jordan, but he is actually one helluva LeBron James.
Super teams are bad for the sport period. There is no more hard work pays off. It’s a participation trophy when the super teams win. Great you won. You were supposed to win! It’s no longer competition of sport. It’s drama / entertainment. And the league questions why ratings are tanking? Why watch if you know the ending....
This is why the Jazz winning it all this year can set in motion a change in the league that is very much needed.
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This is why the Jazz winning it all this year can set in motion a change in the league that is very much needed.
Why a Utah Jazz championship would be the perfect antidote
In this superteam era, every NBA fan should be cheering for the Jazz, or, for that matter, the Bucks, Mavericks, Suns and Nuggets. Here’s why
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The Fresh Prince
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If the Jazz get past a stacked Lakers squad and then beat Brooklyn this would have to be one of the hardest Finals victories in NBA history.
According to google that owner was Prokhorov. Nets also formed a super team under him, Garnett, Pierce, d-will and Iso Joe but were too old and slow.
The mailman
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If the Nets are fully healthy ( and that’s a big if), no one - and I mean NO ONE can beat them.
I don't think the big market teams need to win the chip, but the networks sure like it when the big market teams are competitive. The league's first priority seems to be to promote marketable stars. The next priority is to keep the big media market fan bases engaged. If they can get a big-name star in a big market, that's a win-win.
If the Jazz make the WCF, the networks will do their best to try to hype Mitchell, Conely and Gobert...especially Mitchell.
Yeah, the combination of Harden and Durant alone pretty much puts them over the top. Then they can relegate Irving to attacking 2nd units. It's a lot of offensive firepower. That said, Durant will have missed at least 7 or 8 weeks.