Never Trump

[LogGrad98]

This is what I'm claiming, i.e., that there is anti-Clinton sentiment within the FBI which has led to innocuous actions (on the face of it) that have benefited Trump. The actions are de facto pro Trump. Without any new evidence on the emails, the timing is "inconceivable," as Bill Weld says, and has without doubt affected the election.

What's funny about this is if she had never thought herself above the law in the first place by doing something like this, which technically in and of itself is illegal for the secretary of state, then there would be nothing for the FBI to throw out there at all regardless of their motive.

 

[Stoked]

CNN just made some changes to their EC map. All bad for the left.

Utah went from toss up to leans R
New Hampshire went from leans D to toss up
Ohio went from toss up to lean R
Maine's 2nd District went from toss up to lean R

https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/04/poli...l-college-map-november-4-duplicate/index.html

NV, AZ, NH, FL, NC and 1 KS district are the toss ups.

She still has the edge as he needs to sweep the map to pull this off. She just needs 1

 

[Red]

Best article I've read about Trump:

https://nymag.com/daily/intelligenc...-america-and-the-abyss.html?mid=twitter_nymag

I thank you for that, and even more, for leading me to an earlier piece by the author. Written at the time of the primaries, and particularly long, I could not put it down. By far, the best analysis of this moment in American democracy that I've come across this election season. Available as a link near the start of the article you posted, I clicked on it, and am sending it to all my friends. Best description of the rise of Trump I have read. Ya never know where to find illumination like this at times. Well worth the long read...

https://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/04/america-tyranny-donald-trump.html

"The vital and valid lesson of the Trump phenomenon is that if the elites cannot govern by compromise, someone outside will eventually try to govern by popular passion and brute force."

 

[BYE]

What's funny about this is if she had never thought herself above the law in the first place by doing something like this, which technically in and of itself is illegal for the secretary of state, then there would be nothing for the FBI to throw out there at all regardless of their motive.

That's never been my point at all. The Hatch Act was established for a reason, but it seems that Trump cares nothing for our institutions and procedures anyway during an election, so let's throw this one away too.

 

[Stoked]

That's never been my point at all. The Hatch Act was established for a reason, but it seems that Trump cares nothing for our institutions and procedures anyway during an election, so let's throw this one away too.

The Hatch Act does exist for a reason but it is terrible as is IMO.

If FBI director Comey is prohibited than so should Senators and Congresswomen/men. Good for the goose and good for the gander.

I am beyond tired of the disease of DC.

 

[Red]

This is what I'm claiming, i.e., that there is anti-Clinton sentiment within the FBI which has led to innocuous actions (on the face of it) that have benefited Trump. The actions are de facto pro Trump. Without any new evidence on the emails, the timing is "inconceivable," as Bill Weld says, and has without doubt affected the election.

The fact that Comey decided to send the letter to Congress seems to have been taken as a green light by some agents within the FBI to do their part to undermine Clinton:

https://www.vox.com/world/2016/11/5/13525698/fbi-clinton-trump-leaks-server-email-scandal

"The FBI has what experts like Charles and Miller describe as a disproportionate number of Republicans and other conservatives. It’s also one where, if media reports are to be believed, some agents are openly and vocally supporting Trump’s candidacy.

In the words of one anonymous agent quoted by the Guardian, some FBI personnel see Clinton as “the anti-Christ,” and “the reason why they’re leaking is they’re pro-Trump.” The FBI, the agent said, “is Trumpland.”

And then there's Rudy:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/artic...ni-top-democrats-tell-justice-department.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...to-have-insider-fbi-knowledge-does-he-really/

"Rudy Giuliani told Fox News’s Martha MacCallum on Oct. 26 that Donald Trump had “a surprise or two that you’re going to hear about in the next two days.”

“I’m talking about some pretty big surprise,” he said.

Two days later, FBI Director James Comey revealed to Congress that his agents had resumed their investigation of Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server while she was secretary of state, after agents in an unrelated case discovered emails that could potentially be relevant to the server case."

 

[Red]

And why we should all fear the rot within the FBI...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/05/why-we-should-all-fear-the-rot-inside-the-fbi.html

"The events of the past two weeks have made it all but impossible to have much faith in the FBI now. The agency has, through the actions of a minority cell of unknown size, been severely tainted, potentially dragging down the reputations of even the finest agents in its ranks.

After all, how can we trust the nation’s foremost federal law enforcement agency now that it has become clear that a faction of its agents used a conspiracy theory-hawking political book to launch a partisan probe into a presidential candidate?

That unprecedented prospect: that federal law enforcement could take it upon themselves to try and swing a national election using allegations gleaned from a partisan hatchet job financially linked to the target’s political opponent, is Third World stuff. It makes the already creepy chants of “lock her up!” at Trump rallies reminiscent of a spiraling coup d’etat in a banana republic, because clearly, some in the FBI want to make those chants come true. And it makes Rudy Giuliani’s assertion, two days before Comey’s vague oppo dump, that the campaign had “a couple of things up our sleeve to turn [the race] around,” an ominous tell indeed."

 

[Red]

And how television cable "news" help give rise to a demagogue:

https://www.newsweek.com/blame-rise-trump-failure-tv-news-516162

"Print, online and radio news organizations all gave Trump disproportionate attention during the primaries. But what we saw on television, particularly cable TV news, was a hijacking of political coverage—Donald Trump manipulating and dominating the airwaves—in which television executives were willing accomplices. Our democracy deserves better."

...."As ratings soared, CBS CEO Les Moonves said of Trump’s dominance in the election coverage, “It may not be good for America, but it’s damn good for CBS.… The money’s rolling in and this is fun.”

 

[Hotdog]

So the FBI lets Hillary off when she should have went to jail,and now somehow the FBI is for Trump and against Hillary. Give me a break. What ridiculous spin job.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

So the FBI lets Hillary off when she should have went to jail,and now somehow the FBI is for Trump and against Hillary. Give me a break. What ridiculous spin job.

So it doesn't make sense to you that if the FBI let Hillary off that there is probably a group within the FBI that is probably against Hillary because of that?

Politics create divides within government entities. I'm sure people within those entities stand to gain from a certain candidate winning and I dont doubt they are willing to exert any influence they have to achieve the outcome that benefits them. Politics.

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[Gameface]

So the FBI lets Hillary off when she should have went to jail,and now somehow the FBI is for Trump and against Hillary. Give me a break. What ridiculous spin job.

Please provide me with a link to all the people in jail for classified information lapses in judgement. Thanks!

I can tell you from first hand experience, when there is a breach in classified information security putting people in jail is not a typical response. Not even for lowly little enlisted sailors who definitely knew better. This idea that we throw people in jail because they make mistakes with classified information is so dumb. But hey, keep on believing that if it was anyone other than Hillary Clinton they'd be in jail.

 

[BYE]

And why we should all fear the rot within the FBI...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/05/why-we-should-all-fear-the-rot-inside-the-fbi.html

"The events of the past two weeks have made it all but impossible to have much faith in the FBI now. The agency has, through the actions of a minority cell of unknown size, been severely tainted, potentially dragging down the reputations of even the finest agents in its ranks.

After all, how can we trust the nation’s foremost federal law enforcement agency now that it has become clear that a faction of its agents used a conspiracy theory-hawking political book to launch a partisan probe into a presidential candidate?

That unprecedented prospect: that federal law enforcement could take it upon themselves to try and swing a national election using allegations gleaned from a partisan hatchet job financially linked to the target’s political opponent, is Third World stuff. It makes the already creepy chants of “lock her up!” at Trump rallies reminiscent of a spiraling coup d’etat in a banana republic, because clearly, some in the FBI want to make those chants come true. And it makes Rudy Giuliani’s assertion, two days before Comey’s vague oppo dump, that the campaign had “a couple of things up our sleeve to turn [the race] around,” an ominous tell indeed."

This and dozens of other ways have shown us how shockingly fast our democracy could be challenged. Is it any wonder that democracy has had a hard time in other countries, particularly those countries in which the U.S. has tried to establish democracy? When an aspiring dictator makes a very real play for power and may actually gain power in the U.S., it shows you how fragile our democracy really is and why I take this threat seriously.