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If I am a D Super PAC or any anti R Super Pac then I would run the hell out of an add along these lines in heavy Mormon areas (Utah, Arizona and Vegas).

I'd play quotes from him about Muslims. Then I'd show the connection between that and the weakening in freedom of religion. Then close by pointing out Mormons have been there before and ask them if they really want to go back to that?

They already struggle with him. If you flip AZ, win NV and cause Utah to go 3rd party that is a huge blow to the Rs.
 
ConradA24 said:
Me too!
It makes me sad that he's not an option. :(
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The GOP nominated a guy that wants to expand the role of government while marginalizing and insulting millions of Americans and millions more worldwide. The LP nominated a guy that wants to shrink the role of government who seems to genuinely like all sorts of people. The GOP nominated a bad reality TV star. The LP nominated 2 two term governors.

The libertarians nominated 2 very experienced principled candidates for Potus and VP while the republicans nominated an inexperienced right wing lunatic. It's like one of those ABC made for TV movies where the parent switches bodies with the kid.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRoLvWpdGnQ
 
♪alt13 said:
The GOP nominated a guy that wants to expand the role of government while marginalizing and insulting millions of Americans and millions more worldwide. The LP nominated a guy that wants to shrink the role of government who seems to genuinely like all sorts of people. The GOP nominated a bad reality TV star. The LP nominated 2 two term governors.

The libertarians nominated 2 very experienced principled candidates for Potus and VP while the republicans nominated an inexperienced right wing lunatic. It's like one of those ABC made for TV movies where the parent switches bodies with the kid.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRoLvWpdGnQ
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The LP nominated two REPUBLICANS.

Yeah, I don't see libertarianism as a branch of the Republican Party. They won't get my vote.
 
Gameface said:
The LP nominated two REPUBLICANS.

Yeah, I don't see libertarianism as a branch of the Republican Party. They won't get my vote.
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Republicans that are for marriage equality, a woman's right to choose, ending the drug war, and ending military adventurism. You're not going to vote for them because having served as republican governors they aren't pure enough? Who else should the LP have nominated?

BTW this is in my view the best ticket the LP has had up until this point.
 
♪alt13 said:
Republicans that are for marriage equality, a woman's right to choose, ending the drug war, and ending military adventurism. You're not going to vote for them because having served as republican governors they aren't pure enough? Who else should the LP have nominated?

BTW this is in my view the best ticket the LP has had up until this point.
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I'm sure it is their best ticket ever.

I am ideologically a libertarian, but I don't think there is a path to my version of libertarianism through the oval office. I believe that my version of libertarianism is incompatible with the U.S. Constitution. So I don't want to see libertarian party politicians put forth some hodge-podge implementation of libertarian principles that is doomed to failure out there that will be pointed to for generations as an example of why libertarianism doesn't work.

I think a libertarian president is the worst thing that could ever happen to libertarianism.

But also, I don't think any "real" libertarian would ever run as a Republican. I see the Republican party as less libertarian than the Democratic party. Unless, of course, which is pretty common, people think they're libertarians because they hate taxes. I don't want to associate with those types of libertarians.
 
Gameface said:
I'm sure it is their best ticket ever.

I am ideologically a libertarian, but I don't think there is a path to my version of libertarianism through the oval office. I believe that my version of libertarianism is incompatible with the U.S. Constitution. So I don't want to see libertarian party politicians put forth some hodge-podge implementation of libertarian principles that is doomed to failure out there that will be pointed to for generations as an example of why libertarianism doesn't work.

I think a libertarian president is the worst thing that could ever happen to libertarianism.

But also, I don't think any "real" libertarian would ever run as a Republican. I see the Republican party as less libertarian than the Democratic party. Unless, of course, which is pretty common, people think they're libertarians because they hate taxes. I don't want to associate with those types of libertarians.
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That's funny. Ideologically I am not libertarian but I am all about voting for them based on where we are now.

I have so many questions for you after this post. I think I'll start with just these 3; what is your version of libertarianism, why is it incompatible with the constitution, do you see a possible transitional period of incremental progress toward it or is revolution the only way to get there?
 
♪alt13 said:
That's funny. Ideologically I am not libertarian but I am all about voting for them based on where we are now.

I have so many questions for you after this post. I think I'll start with just these 3; what is your version of libertarianism, why is it incompatible with the constitution, do you see a possible transitional period of incremental progress toward it or is revolution the only way to get there?
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I'll try to answer, but in all honesty I've really gotten tired of it all and my heart's just not in it like it used to be.
 
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