♪alt13
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It's exactly what he describes in the line just before he says GEBTP on the access holywood video.(which is why I pointed that out) It's also far from the only allegation.
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It's exactly what he describes in the line just before he says GEBTP on the access holywood video.(which is why I pointed that out) It's also far from the only allegation.
I agree with this. Taking about sexual stuff or having consensual sex is something that might make you a perv to some but nothing really wrong with it, that's your own business. Talking about molesting a person is despicable but nothing illegal. Actually doing it is a crime you should be punished for. There is a difference between all three. Trump's words are nothing he should be punished for but it is something to give us an idea of his character. If this was an isolated incident it probably would be less of an issue but it seems his disrespect for women has a pattern. If I was a Trump supporter this would disappoint me, but wouldn't stop me from voting for him. If it is proven he has done anything like this it would stop me from voting for him. Good thing I am not a Trump fan, I don't have to worry about where my line is for voting for him.
jimmy eat jazz
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Pretty funny indeed.
For my money, this is pretty darned funny too.
[url[/MEDIA[/MEDIA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v75wCTMZoSY[/url]
Now that it appears Trump will go down in flames, we can pause and thank whomever we choose to thank that we are not now contemplating this dominionist arsewipe as a possible president.
He's bragging about molesting people because he's famous. He didn't molest anyone on that tape, but he brags about being able to and implies that he has.
I ended a friendship with a person I had known since I was 2 years old because he and his new group of friends joked about what amounted to date rape and I didn't think it was as funny as they did. People want to act like this is fake outrage, but for me this is something I have found unacceptable my entire adolescent and adult life.
You want to split hairs on this, that's fine. I obviously didn't consider Trump qualified to hold the office of the U.S. President before this tape and I only feel more strongly now. And it seems I must continue to remind people that I hate Donald Trump so much that I should not be considered a rational participant in these conversations. I think I've had to say that six times now.
UGLI baby
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Turning this bus incident into "Donald Trump was talking about literally sexually assaulting women!!" is so absurdly laughable. I don't believe any Male in this threads fake outrage. I don't believe that any of you actually think Donald is literally saying, "I'm going to grab that woman's vagina. I'm forreals going to."
I don't associate with, or build friendships with people that say stuff like that, because I find it disgusting, and I value myself more than being around garbage like that, but there has been many times I've been around small men in positions of authority that talk about women exactly like this. I found it gross, and I lost respect for those guys, but I wasn't calling 911 to report that a sexual assault was in the works either.
Actual examples I can remember off the top of my head:
I worked at a golf course in high school and overheard countless conversations between old men about the beverage cart girls.
"I'll put my balls in her hole any day." "Hey girl, ever had a hole in one." "Mhhmmm I'm gonna have her come over here and wash my balls."
What happens when the girl comes over to them with her cart?
"Hi darling, how are you? Having a good day? I'm not thirsty now, but maybe in a few holes. Ok, thanks!"
Guy says dirty things he's going to do to a girl around his friends, girl shows up and guy goes into super nice mode.
Another example:
A cute girl shows up for a preliminary interview at the place I was working. Boss pulls two of us into his office...
"Did you see that girl? I'm gonna have to do this interview myself boys, I can already tell she wants to sit on my pole. You guys think I should let her sit on my pole?"
I totally understand if someone saying this makes you lose respect for them, it probly should, but to all the Boy Scouts saying "wow Donald is bragging about literally sexually assaluting women!" give me a freaking break.
I don't associate with, or build friendships with people that say stuff like that, because I find it disgusting, and I value myself more than being around garbage like that, but there has been many times I've been around small men in positions of authority that talk about women exactly like this. I found it gross, and I lost respect for those guys, but I wasn't calling 911 to report that a sexual assault was in the works either.
Actual examples I can remember off the top of my head:
I worked at a golf course in high school and overheard countless conversations between old men about the beverage cart girls.
"I'll put my balls in her hole any day." "Hey girl, ever had a hole in one." "Mhhmmm I'm gonna have her come over here and wash my balls."
What happens when the girl comes over to them with her cart?
"Hi darling, how are you? Having a good day? I'm not thirsty now, but maybe in a few holes. Ok, thanks!"
Guy says dirty things he's going to do to a girl around his friends, girl shows up and guy goes into super nice mode.
Another example:
A cute girl shows up for a preliminary interview at the place I was working. Boss pulls two of us into his office...
"Did you see that girl? I'm gonna have to do this interview myself boys, I can already tell she wants to sit on my pole. You guys think I should let her sit on my pole?"
I totally understand if someone saying this makes you lose respect for them, it probly should, but to all the Boy Scouts saying "wow Donald is bragging about literally sexually assaluting women!" give me a freaking break.
Hotdog
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Exactly
UGLI is one of the smarter people I know. Down to earth.
Almost every guy I know says all sorts of vulgar sexual things about girls when they arent around. Then treat them with repsect when they are.
Perfect example is Trump talking about all that stuff on the bus, then gets off and is a totally different person. He didnt reach out and grab her *****.
Liberals and their fake outrage. SMH
jimmy eat jazz
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I agree. We're men after all, and they're just women. It's just not possible than men might get upset, or even outraged, about someone bragging about grabbing women's genetalia. All you men pretending to care about how women feel about unwanted sexual advances, just stop it. You're not fooling anyone, least of all Ugli.
NAOS
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I hear what you're saying, and there's plenty of sense in it. But one major difference I think needs to be added here. What Donald said was not "I'd like to do ______ with her," or "I think she wants to do ________ with me." He's saying something along the lines of "I can sexually assault her because...." That's not an insignificant difference. And it's especially large, I imagine, from the perspective of a woman who has been sexually assaulted.
You know how many women have told me they could drag me around by my balls?!!!
NAOS
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I see what you're trying to do here, and I applaud. But, again, I'd like to say this isn't about "sexual advances".... perhaps we should call them "assaulting advances" or something like that?
Serious question--how old are you? I knew guys that did that in high school, but I know literally no one that would do that now (I'm 46).
If it had been a recording of Trump from high school, I wouldn't care too much. But a 60 year old??? It troubles me GREATLY that he wouldn't have grown out of that type of thing by now. (Even supposing it was "locker room" type of stuff, and that he hasn't actually done any actions like that. Which I'm not sure we can suppose.)