gregbroncs
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This. I've all but decided to neg the OP In any thread about Kanter posted in the Jazz section. Hate it all you want but it no longer belongs in this forum.
Newsok's Berry Tramel: "Kanter had no defensive mentor with Jazz"
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Dumb Bloke
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Youre not the forum dictator freakazoid. We want to talk about Kanter still. He was drafted 3rd and played 4 seasons for gods sake. If you dont like it take your god damn ball and go cry somewhere else about it ya big baby.
//r00t 4 Jazz
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I think you guys are missing the point. Clearly Kanter was Gobert's mentor and the sole reason why Gobert is so great on defense.
If that article allows you to post comments someone should go bring that up.
As for the OP, I don't feel like addressing all of the fallacies in what you assume to be facts but I will state one thing that has been mentioned in the countless threads and by media. He had more assists in his first week or two in OKC then the last couple months on the Jazz and this showed he has the ability but he had a poor attitude while on the Jazz, for whatever reason you want to blame it on.
Other Jazz players like Favors, Hayward, Gobert, Burks all lived through those same times, coaches, experiences etc... but they moved past it. Kanter did not, again for whatever reason. I do think a large part of it was his agent, if his agent had been a better mentor to him IMO things would have worked out much better for Kanter, even if still on another team.
If that article allows you to post comments someone should go bring that up.
As for the OP, I don't feel like addressing all of the fallacies in what you assume to be facts but I will state one thing that has been mentioned in the countless threads and by media. He had more assists in his first week or two in OKC then the last couple months on the Jazz and this showed he has the ability but he had a poor attitude while on the Jazz, for whatever reason you want to blame it on.
Other Jazz players like Favors, Hayward, Gobert, Burks all lived through those same times, coaches, experiences etc... but they moved past it. Kanter did not, again for whatever reason. I do think a large part of it was his agent, if his agent had been a better mentor to him IMO things would have worked out much better for Kanter, even if still on another team.
Dumb Bloke
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Thats how Millers forced him to play. He didn't defend like that in practice scrimmages at KU. Coach Cal got plenty movement just like Scotty Brooks is right now.
That you are only at -11 is a sad thing. Some people like to reward the troll alts with pos rep I guess.
//r00t 4 Jazz
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I would hold off on touting Scoot Brooks too much as OKC is rumored to be firing him (which I do think would be stupid) for UConn's HC Kevin Ollie.
Also yes it's all the Millers fault for his bad defense, stupid owners, ruining Favors & Gobert's defense as well. Robbing the old blind Cav's owner for Boozer who was an awesome defender before the Miller's got their hooks into him. Nothing like OKC's owner who never said he would try to keep the team in Seattle and then as soon as possible moving them to his home state of OK, Seattle fans are also just a bunch of lying whining babies.
Also yes it's all the Millers fault for his bad defense, stupid owners, ruining Favors & Gobert's defense as well. Robbing the old blind Cav's owner for Boozer who was an awesome defender before the Miller's got their hooks into him. Nothing like OKC's owner who never said he would try to keep the team in Seattle and then as soon as possible moving them to his home state of OK, Seattle fans are also just a bunch of lying whining babies.
The dumb troll alt is trying to call out useful posters as being alts. Brilliant.
Yep, that taking Durant once Oden was off the board was brilliant! As was the Harden trade.
Sure, there's room for improvement. Typically guys improve by working hard and being taught well. The former is by far the most important. Now I was no fan of the former coaching staff, but I'm guessing that at least taught the basic building blocks right, since other players on the team seem to know them.
addictionary
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Alongside my thoughts that are on the same direction with yours on Kanter's D and the hurts it gives to his team, I also have a theory that he will start defending more once he signs a contract. His mindset appears to be to avoid fouls, guarantee playing time and stuff boxscore. If that is the case, I would at least not be surprised to see a more physical type of defense from him similar to his rookie year Bynum defense. There is no sudden cure for BBIQ though.