NFL Discussion Thread - 2013

[//r00t 4 Jazz]

Not sure how I missed this but the Phins signed ex Ute OL Sam Brenner sweet. Phins Oline is minus Incognito & Martin, then Pouncy is sick, Incognito's replacement (Yeatman) gets injured and McKinnie was just added weeks ago from Baltimore and of course they let Jake Long Starting pro bowl LT go to STL.

Man Ireland sucks so hard, his only redeeming quality is he has the good sense to draft and/or sign several U players.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Curious to see how others feel about that unnecessary roughness call on the Drew Brees sack and fumble. As a 49er fan I'm not the most partial of people to judge this call. I'm not liking the call and feel the 49ers were screwed am I right or wrong?

 

[UGLI baby]

Curious to see how others feel about that unnecessary roughness call on the Drew Brees sack and fumble. As a 49er fan I'm not the most partial of people to judge this call. I'm not liking the call and feel the 49ers were screwed am I right or wrong?

Sucks to have that call go against you at that point in the game, but if you are going by letter of the law, there's absolutely no doubt it's a penalty.

He hooked him by the neck and swung him down. You can argue that shouldn't be a rule, but since it is it's not even debatable.

 

[fishonjazz]

Nfl has too many stupid rulez

 

[8]

Curious to see how others feel about that unnecessary roughness call on the Drew Brees sack and fumble. As a 49er fan I'm not the most partial of people to judge this call. I'm not liking the call and feel the 49ers were screwed am I right or wrong?

I just saw a glimpse of the play once, but I thought the Saints got pretty lucky. Looked like Brees kind of ducked down a little bit


No controversy in that Denver game! Go Broncos!!!!

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Sucks to have that call go against you at that point in the game, but if you are going by letter of the law, there's absolutely no doubt it's a penalty.

He hooked him by the neck and swung him down. You can argue that shouldn't be a rule, but since it is it's not even debatable.

He swung him down because of his momentum. He came in pretty fast. A few years ago this would've been 49ers ball game, and in a few years the nfl may as well evolve into another arena league, because defense hand will be tied up even more then than they are now. A defender even lays one finger on a qb's helmet in a weak manner it's deemed a 15 yard personal foul. I mean is there no room fore common sense in the nfl.

With the speed of the game the way it is it's damn near impossible to tell if it's an illegal or clean hit, or the defender gets in the act of the tackle and aimed for the midsection, but as he's doing that the offensive player ducks his head down causing a helmet to helmet contact drawing a flag, and then you always hear the announcer say the refs are told to err on the side of caution. How about err on the side of getting the call right with instant replay, but then the game would halt every othe play. I thought it looked like a clean play. It will be interesting to see if there is a fine sent out for that hit or not. To me it looks like Brooks got his chest, but then I'm not the most partial being 49er fan.

 

[UGLI baby]

He swung him down because of his momentum. He came in pretty fast. A few years ago this would've been 49ers ball game, and in a few years the nfl may as well evolve into another arena league, because defense hand will be tied up even more then than they are now. A defender even lays one finger on a qb's helmet in a weak manner it's deemed a 15 yard personal foul. I mean is there no room fore common sense in the nfl.

With the speed of the game the way it is it's damn near impossible to tell if it's an illegal or clean hit, or the defender gets in the act of the tackle and aimed for the midsection, but as he's doing that the offensive player ducks his head down causing a helmet to helmet contact drawing a flag, and then you always hear the announcer say the refs are told to err on the side of caution. How about err on the side of getting the call right with instant replay, but then the game would halt every othe play. I thought it looked like a clean play. It will be interesting to see if there is a fine sent out for that hit or not. To me it looks like Brooks got his chest, but then I'm not the most partial being 49er fan.

He's literally bringing him down by the neck at the end of the play.

https://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000283599/article/ahmad-brooks-of-49ers-steaming-over-call-on-drew-brees-hit

I actually think that would've been called a penalty in years past too. Basically a clothesline.

 

[Stoked]

Peyton Manning, I'd like you to meet my friend Justin Houston.

Peyton was not impressed. So much so that he was not even knocked down let alone sacked. Denver on the other hand sacked Smith 3 times.

Denver had the game leading passer, rusher and top 3 receivers for the game. They also had all the sacks, more passes deflected, more QB hits and less TOs.

How about that Denver D!

 

[YB85]

He swung him down because of his momentum. He came in pretty fast. A few years ago this would've been 49ers ball game, and in a few years the nfl may as well evolve into another arena league, because defense hand will be tied up even more then than they are now. A defender even lays one finger on a qb's helmet in a weak manner it's deemed a 15 yard personal foul. I mean is there no room fore common sense in the nfl.

With the speed of the game the way it is it's damn near impossible to tell if it's an illegal or clean hit, or the defender gets in the act of the tackle and aimed for the midsection, but as he's doing that the offensive player ducks his head down causing a helmet to helmet contact drawing a flag, and then you always hear the announcer say the refs are told to err on the side of caution. How about err on the side of getting the call right with instant replay, but then the game would halt every othe play. I thought it looked like a clean play. It will be interesting to see if there is a fine sent out for that hit or not. To me it looks like Brooks got his chest, but then I'm not the most partial being 49er fan.

I thought it was a great call. I'm pissed they blew the intentional grounding non-call on Kaepernick in the end zone. Then again, I'm not that partial being a 49er hater.

 

[fishonjazz]

I don't like the 49ers but I think that was a bad call.
Just my two cents

 

[UGLI baby]

Peyton was not impressed. So much so that he was not even knocked down let alone sacked. Denver on the other hand sacked Smith 3 times.

Denver had the game leading passer, rusher and top 3 receivers for the game. They also had all the sacks, more passes deflected, more QB hits and less TOs.

How about that Denver D!

The shocking thing to me was that the Chiefs didn't get to Manning AT ALL and it was still somewhat of a game.

We already knew who the Bronos were, but last nights game showed me that the Chiefs are a legit contender.

 

[Stoked]

The shocking thing to me was that the Chiefs didn't get to Manning AT ALL and it was still somewhat of a game.

We already knew who the Bronos were, but last nights game showed me that the Chiefs are a legit contender.

I agree. I still think they beat Denver in Arrowhead.

Denver's D did show up as well though and that is a good sign for Denver fans.

Outside of Denver, KC, New England, Seattle, SF and NO the talent drastically drops off.