Nikola Mirotic

[Handlogten's Heros]

He's never shot 30%, unless you're counting his rookie year where he was 31.6%. I'm fairly willing to overlook that especially as these were the rookie percentages for the following guys:

Memo 33.9%
Love 10.5%
Dirk 20.6%

He shot 39% the year after and 34.2% last year. Career total 36.1%. He also shot 39.7% in the four years of Euroleague before that on 539 attempts.

47% or 38% -- who cares? Dude can shoot the ball. Equally impressive is his maintaining any of those numbers on his Godzilla amount of attempts.

Going from 31.6 - 39 - 34.2 concerns me a bit. I don't think he has the offensive rebounding, post game, or passing of Love. Dirk has so much more than just the 3 point shot.

Memo is a fair comp I guess.

Up until his recent hot streak he was much more Illyasova than Dirk. Some of the improvement may be real, but I'm not paying for the small sample size. Not giving our 1st unless it is a fake first (so top 16 protected this year and reverts into a 2nd).

 

[infection]

Larry H. hath commanded it.

Let it be done.

 

[fishonjazz]

He's never shot 30%, unless you're counting his rookie year where he was 31.6%. I'm fairly willing to overlook that especially as these were the rookie percentages for the following guys:

Memo 33.9%
Love 10.5%
Dirk 20.6%

He shot 39% the year after and 34.2% last year. Career total 36.1%. He also shot 39.7% in the four years of Euroleague before that on 539 attempts.

47% or 38% -- who cares? Dude can shoot the ball. Equally impressive is his maintaining any of those numbers on his Godzilla amount of attempts.

and the 46.5% he is doing right now is something that dirk and love never even sniffed. (memo had a year at 44% though. still never hit the % niko is currently)

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'm just so conflicted on adding Mirotic. He will hurt the tank and the tank should probably be the #1 priority.

But next year having a legit stretch/scoring 4 w/ a healthy Exum/Gobert will be nice.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'm just so conflicted on adding Mirotic. He will hurt the tank and the tank should probably be the #1 priority.

Just wait them out... if it takes an extra month to drive the price down then great. The tank will get much harder.

 

[infection]

Going from 31.6 - 39 - 34.2 concerns me a bit. I don't think he has the offensive rebounding, post game, or passing of Love. Dirk has so much more than just the 3 point shot.

Memo is a fair comp I guess.

Up until his recent hot streak he was much more Illyasova than Dirk. Some of the improvement may be real, but I'm not paying for the small sample size. Not giving our 1st unless it is a fake first (so top 16 protected this year and reverts into a 2nd).

I'm not necessarily comparing him to those guys in their complete game, but more about the idea that his 3p% is "inconsistent" being a concern. All of those guys are known as lights-out shooters but their numbers are less than what you would think. If you're concerned about him shooting 34.2% one year, Dirk has shot below that twice and right about there another two years; Love has shot below that for three years and right about there for another year; Memo shot less than that 5 years. Again, none of these guys had nearly as many attempts. Keeping those averages on so many attempts is a feat unto itself.

As a side note, perhaps I should start including Raef LaFrentz and Troy Murphy, just so we can round out the "white stretch four" comparisons.

 

[fishonjazz]

He's never shot 30%, unless you're counting his rookie year where he was 31.6%. I'm fairly willing to overlook that especially as these were the rookie percentages for the following guys:

Memo 33.9%
Love 10.5%
Dirk 20.6%

He shot 39% the year after and 34.2% last year. Career total 36.1%. He also shot 39.7% in the four years of Euroleague before that on 539 attempts.

47% or 38% -- who cares? Dude can shoot the ball. Equally impressive is his maintaining any of those numbers on his Godzilla amount of attempts.

and the 46.5% he is doing right now is something that dirk and love never even sniffed. (memo had a year at 44% though. still never hit the % niko is currently)

 

[infection]

I'm just so conflicted on adding Mirotic. He will hurt the tank and the tank should probably be the #1 priority.

But next year having a legit stretch/scoring 4 w/ a healthy Exum/Gobert will be nice.

The tank is a mirage. We'll have a streak somewhere in February and March where we'll look unstoppable and people will be talking about championship (I'm kidding but only kind of -- any time we put together wins people go crazy). That's going to do more to hurt the tank than anything. The difference Mirotic makes this year is we position ourselves better in the playoffs.

 

[fishonjazz]

Seems that the risk if mirotic is a bit of fools gold is that we get a player like a young illyasova. Thats still a pretty good player on this team imo.
If we miss on the pick? Trey burke.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'm not necessarily comparing him to those guys in their complete game, but more about the idea that his 3p% is "inconsistent" being a concern. All of those guys are known as lights-out shooters but their numbers are less than what you would think. If you're concerned about him shooting 34.2% one year, Dirk has shot below that twice and right about there another two years; Love has shot below that for three years and right about there for another year; Memo shot less than that 5 years. Again, none of these guys had nearly as many attempts. Keeping those averages on so many attempts is a feat unto itself.

As a side note, perhaps I should start including Raef LaFrentz and Troy Murphy, just so we can round out the "white stretch four" comparisons.

There is a narrative that he was being misused both as a rookie and last year was tough with the ball dominant guys they had. There is some hope he is much more than a Troy Murphy or Illyasova for sure.

I just think if we wait them out a bit he either cools off or keeps helping them win so much that they have to move him to save their tank.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Seems that the risk if mirotic is a bit of fools gold is that we get a player like a young illyasova. Thats still a pretty good player on this team imo.
If we miss on the pick? Trey burke.

But even if a rookie doesn't look great in year 1 they can still have a lot of trade value. I just think we are sitting in pole position with not a lot of incentive to act fast... so we will give them something, but not a first.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Seems that the risk if mirotic is a bit of fools gold is that we get a player like a young illyasova. Thats still a pretty good player on this team imo.
If we miss on the pick? Trey burke.

So, the biggest concern with both is giving them a new contract that they fail to live up to.