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Thee jazz fan said:
What if there is an okc type protection.

For example

18th pick if we fall under that the next year becomes the 16'th. If not then it becomes two seconds. How about then?
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I'd do a fake first... say protections are top-18, top-18 2019 (converts into a second)... Would change from top 18 to top 14 in 2019 if they take Burks.
 
MDAV28 said:
Oh I'm in complete agreement, I posted the same concerns last week before this Mirotic rumors. Jazz are definitely facing a crossroads being basically equidistant away from playoffs and high lottery.
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At THIS point, I think it's straight foolish to not tank. What's amazing to me is that The Zone people are openly advocating for it... so I don't know, maybe the organization at some point will do the sensible thing.

A cheap, highly valuable asset is awesome anyway you slice it. You walk into 2019 with a playoff run, a very young superstar, the best defensive anchor in the world, a very nice glue guy, Quin Snyder, a very good organizational reputation, enough cap space for one or two max free agents, AND a blue-chip prospect... yeah, I don't know. Go big. Make a case to Klay and Butler, have the assets to do an extend-and-trade for Porzingis if that situation doesn't improve (a la Harden). Hell, you could get Mirotic plus one of those other guys (and not use any assets to acquire him now)! And you'd probably still be in prime position to grab Porzingis if he followed through with his threat of taking the QO and going into 2020 as a UFA.

Again, let's go big here. Time for the Jazz to try an unprecedented approach for them, because they are in kind of an unprecedented position (having an explosive, well-liked, incredibly respected franchise player as a rookie, plus everything else [I think players would like to play for Quin more than players wanted to for Sloan]).
 
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NUMBERICA said:
At THIS point, I think it's straight foolish to not tank. What's amazing to me is that The Zone people are openly advocating for it... so I don't know, maybe the organization at some point will do the sensible thing.

A cheap, highly valuable asset is awesome anyway you slice it. You walk into 2019 with a playoff run, a very young superstar, the best defensive anchor in the world, a very nice glue guy, Quin Snyder, a very good organizational reputation, enough cap space for one or two max free agents, AND a blue-chip prospect... yeah, I don't know. Go big. Make a case to Klay and Butler, have the assets to do an extend-and-trade for Porzingis if that situation doesn't improve (a la Harden). Hell, you could get Mirotic plus one of those other guys (and not use any assets to acquire him now)! And you'd probably still be in prime position to grab Porzingis if he followed through with his threat of taking the QO and going into 2020 as a UFA.

Again, let's go big here. Time for the Jazz to try an unprecedented approach for them, because they are in kind of an unprecedented position (having an explosive, well-liked, incredibly respected franchise player as a rookie, plus everything else [I think players would like to play for Quin more than players wanted to for Sloan]).
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(You'll notice I didn't say anything about Hood or Exum, who combined would likely be a max salary slot... cuz... yeah, I'm not feeling spending that cap [actual cap] on them.)
 
Just spittballing here:

I've been trying to figure out why we're seeing Favors's name so often in the trade rumors (rather than Joe Johnson's). He doesn't seem to fit what the Bulls have in mind (other than being an expiring).

Do you think there's a chance that the Bulls could be talked into (or talk themselves into) thinking that they'll be able to move Favors for something once the DeAndre Jordan trade market clears up (in other words, at the deadline itself). Locke keeps talking about Favors's market being established only after Jordan's is, since Jordan is the more desirable target for a contender. More than the Jazz, perhaps, they're in a position to accept a package with bad salary along with a first from a contender for Favors (after perhaps having picked up a second from the Jazz in a Mirotic trade). Or would that be too risky of a calculation for the Bulls to make?
 
LoPo said:
Our version of Manu doesn't mean the actual Manu. The best part of Manu was Pop's ability to bring a high quality starter off his bench to run his 2nd unit. Hood could be that for us, but never at the same level as Manu.
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Then why make the horrible comparison?
 
If Favs is gone or about to be, I will miss him. This would be a good move for the Jazz so long as they don’t give up a first round pick, but Favs has been a long time and good member of this organization, and it will be sad to see him go but it’s going to happen regardless. I know that it is probably nothing to read into....but you never know.
 
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