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Nitrogen Death Penalty

As somebody dealing with animal euthanasia on regular basis I am surprised that lethal injections in death penalty are so unsuccessful. 99.9% of euthanasia procedures we do in animals are quick and painless. We place IV catheter ( so that is where only source of pain comes) and then sedate them where they do not feel anything before giving final injection of pentobarbital. Never see any animal struggle with that, not sure why humans would be different.
 
MVP said:
As somebody dealing with animal euthanasia on regular basis I am surprised that lethal injections in death penalty are so unsuccessful. 99.9% of euthanasia procedures we do in animals are quick and painless. We place IV catheter ( so that is where only source of pain comes) and then sedate them where they do not feel anything before giving final injection of pentobarbital. Never see any animal struggle with that, not sure why humans would be different.
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Agreed. I have only witnessed one of these procedures on a pet of mine and it was better than I could have hoped. No pain. No struggle. Very calm and peaceful

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MVP said:
As somebody dealing with animal euthanasia on regular basis I am surprised that lethal injections in death penalty are so unsuccessful. 99.9% of euthanasia procedures we do in animals are quick and painless. We place IV catheter ( so that is where only source of pain comes) and then sedate them where they do not feel anything before giving final injection of pentobarbital. Never see any animal struggle with that, not sure why humans would be different.
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Pentobarbital is used in a lot of lethal injections, supplanting sodium thiopental in many states due to shortages.

I thought the U.S. replaced the death penalty with student loans to ensure a drawn out and miserable death.
 
MVP said:
As somebody dealing with animal euthanasia on regular basis I am surprised that lethal injections in death penalty are so unsuccessful. 99.9% of euthanasia procedures we do in animals are quick and painless. We place IV catheter ( so that is where only source of pain comes) and then sedate them where they do not feel anything before giving final injection of pentobarbital. Never see any animal struggle with that, not sure why humans would be different.
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Drug makers won't supply drugs to be used for lethal injections of humans. States have been trying to get creative to get their hands on the drugs and switching up the combo, but many executions have been delayed because they can't get the drugs they need. Idaho just passed a law that allows them to do a firing squad if lethal injection is not possible.

Nitrogen is used by people in assisted suicides, or semi-assisted suicides because it is easy to get, the apparatus to administer it is easy to make with common household items and it is relatively quick and painless.

I suspect the recently executed person was trying to hold their breath or otherwise resist the execution, that's why they were struggling. Not because the method was causing pain or trauma. I would have expected them to sedate the person first, not sure if that happened or not.
 
Sardines said:
Drug makers won't supply drugs to be used for lethal injections of humans. States have been trying to get creative to get their hands on the drugs and switching up the combo, but many executions have been delayed because they can't get the drugs they need. Idaho just passed a law that allows them to do a firing squad if lethal injection is not possible.

Nitrogen is used by people in assisted suicides, or semi-assisted suicides because it is easy to get, the apparatus to administer it is easy to make with common household items and it is relatively quick and painless.

I suspect the recently executed person was trying to hold their breath or otherwise resist the execution, that's why they were struggling. Not because the method was causing pain or trauma. I would have expected them to sedate the person first, not sure if that happened or not.
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Interesting
 
Sardines said:
Drug makers won't supply drugs to be used for lethal injections of humans. States have been trying to get creative to get their hands on the drugs and switching up the combo, but many executions have been delayed because they can't get the drugs they need. Idaho just passed a law that allows them to do a firing squad if lethal injection is not possible.

Nitrogen is used by people in assisted suicides, or semi-assisted suicides because it is easy to get, the apparatus to administer it is easy to make with common household items and it is relatively quick and painless.

I suspect the recently executed person was trying to hold their breath or otherwise resist the execution, that's why they were struggling. Not because the method was causing pain or trauma. I would have expected them to sedate the person first, not sure if that happened or not.
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They did not sedate, which was really odd.

Idaho was jealous that Utah still had the firing squad option and they did not. Copycats.
 
TheGoldStandard said:
They did not sedate, which was really odd.

Idaho was jealous that Utah still had the firing squad option and they did not. Copycats.
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In voluntary euthanasia (just looked up the term) the person takes sedatives first. But I think they have to be able to carry out all the steps so I'm not 100% sure how it works. I listened to something about it maybe about a year ago and I can't remember the details.

I can't imagine why they wouldn't fully sedate the person before administering the nitrogen.
 
Sardines said:
In voluntary euthanasia (just looked up the term) the person takes sedatives first. But I think they have to be able to carry out all the steps so I'm not 100% sure how it works. I listened to something about it maybe about a year ago and I can't remember the details.

I can't imagine why they wouldn't fully sedate the person before administering the nitrogen.
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I can't imagine not fully sedating myself before watching the Jazz games of late.
 
Totally get all the arguments here. I'm a vindictive person so If my wife or kids were beaten with a fireplace club, a galvanized pipe, and a walking cane for 20+ minutes and then stabbed upwards of 10 times with a 6 inch survival knife until they eventually bled out after several hours, i don't think i'd blink an eye about the ****er writhing in restraints for 90 seconds.
 
MVP said:
As somebody dealing with animal euthanasia on regular basis I am surprised that lethal injections in death penalty are so unsuccessful. 99.9% of euthanasia procedures we do in animals are quick and painless. We place IV catheter ( so that is where only source of pain comes) and then sedate them where they do not feel anything before giving final injection of pentobarbital. Never see any animal struggle with that, not sure why humans would be different.
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Most animals don't know they are going to die.
 
Not surprising from one of the moral poverty franchises on Earth. For outsider, it looks like the states have too much independence in the USA.
 
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