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No BYU-Utah Rivalry Football Games in 2014 or 2015

It goes both ways. What this game meant for both schools and the relevance of the game went away when they were no longer in a conference.
Agreed. I know Utah honks want to think otherwise but really this doesn't affect anything from a football standpoint. It's not that hard to replace a team like BYU or Utah on any team's schedule.
 
If this is already posted, my bad -- but it sums it up pretty well. https://www.deseretnews.com/article...eir-culture-in-suspending-rivalry.html?pg=all

Chris Hill and the Utes have killed off the Utah-BYU football game.

What's next? Christmas? The Fourth of July?

Things I thought I'd never see end in my lifetime: the Soviet Union. Newspapers. Utah-BYU.

Freedom killed one. The Internet is killing the other. Chris Hill killed the third.

Are you kidding me? Utah not playing BYU? What are people going to talk about at church?

And who's going to tell LaVell Edwards?

This is so wrong on so many levels it's hard to know where to start. The BYU-Utah football game is as integral a part of the fabric of the state as four seasons, dry air and Mount Timpanogos.

It's like shooting a seagull. Like re-zoning Delicate Arch for condos.

Chris Hill's been here a long time. So has Kyle Whittingham. They know this. What the Utes are doing is nothing short of abandoning their culture.

The Utes went Hollywood faster than the Beverly Hillbillies. They've been in the Pac-12 what? One Year? And already they can't see their past on account of their wraparound shades.

They took the good fortune and fantastic timing that got them into the Pac-12 and threw away the rearview mirror.

The Utes got into the league because A) Texas didn't want to, B) BYU won't play on Sunday, and C) Kyle Whittingham runs the best football program this side of Tuscaloosa.

BYU had the better overall program. Any sports follower in the state knows that's been the case for decades. If BYU and the University of Utah were countries and they held an Olympics, BYU would be Germany, the Utes would be Lithuania.

For decades the two schools were in the same conference. BYU won three times as many overall championships as Utah in the Mountain West Conference — or anyone else. And few would argue that it was BYU's emergence as a football power in the 1970s and 1980s that motivated the U. of U. to step up its game — and make it interesting to a big-time league like the Pac-12.

If any school deserved a call-up to the next level, it was the Cougars.

But life isn't fair and college football isn't even close. You have to seize your moments when they arrive, like Utah did when it joined the Pac-12, and no one in the state is unhappy they did it.

But the Utes know it was their move that started the dominoes falling that caused BYU to decide it needed to become a football independent to survive. That put the Cougars in a position where it's imperative that quality programs fit them into their schedules. If that doesn't happen, they're sunk.

And now … now this. The Utes are saying we'll fit you in when we can. They opened the door and tossed their old running mate to the curb.

Of course the big loser, like always, is the fan. Just another kick in the teeth. Add it to the $5 Cokes and the late-night starts because the game's on ESPN.

Fans never have the final say. For years, if they polled them, they'd have voted for a national championship in football in a second.

Same thing here. If they polled college football fans in Utah, the BYU-Utah game would never die.

But in 2014 and 2015 it will be dead, for starters. The Utes killed it. Is nothing around here sacred?
 
I've been annoyed by the local radio so stayed away from this as the rivalry always gets emotions high and clouds judgement or say things just out of trash talk and jab back and forth. The radio spinning it to get the zoobies all agitated as they know it is best way to get their reaction and knowing all but ignoring and down playing the Ute side is the best way to get the U's fans to react, which I understand it. However I would hope (and maybe they had when I wasn't listening) to give some small time to explain the Utes reason/side.

IMO the main reason for the U is the same the reason behind the Y going independent and the U going to the PAC 12 is $$$$. The Utes want the extra home game as that makes them more money and playing a team like Michigan also brings in more money and now that they can actually get a home and home with them which they couldn't before joining the PAC12 it isn't hard to understand. It's not that Utah has gone hollywood or gotten to big, in fact the opposite is true, the reason they HAVE to do this is the same problem the Jazz have, smaller market and less money then the teams they are competing with. So in order to try and not keep up but try not to lose out by as much is to play the extra home game and get access to teams they wouldn't have had otherwise before joining the PAC12 (ie Michigan).

If all this stuff I hear about how upset Y fans are, rivalry this, rivalry that playing up the holier than thou card was actually true then they would understand the U's situation and like the self righteous people they are would agree to play 2 (road) for 1 (home) games. Now I don't actually think they should and wouldn't want them to but just pointing out the sad state college football has gotten to in regards to the money side of things.

For the record I'd prefer the rivalry to stay but have no visions of grandeur of where the U stands in landscape of college football so I can understand and live with the decision and hope that one day the rivalry can return.
 
I'm ok with that. For some schools, money is king.

Try to have a little intellectual honesty and not go there. When BYU saw Utah getting the PAC12 invite and all the money that was going to come with it, they bolted the MWC as quickly as humanly possible, signed their own sweetheart deal with ESPN, and began pimping their sports with BYUtv. Every single one of those decisions was financially motivated and were made in an effort to keep up with "little brother".

The biggest difference between the two schools is that Utah is up front and honest about the financial motivations of their program, while BYU strives for the exact same thing, yet does it under the guise of "religion first".
 
Try to have a little intellectual honesty and not go there. When BYU saw Utah getting the PAC12 invite and all the money that was going to come with it, they bolted the MWC as quickly as humanly possible, signed their own sweetheart deal with ESPN, and began pimping their sports with BYUtv. Every single one of those decisions was financially motivated and were made in an effort to keep up with "little brother".

The biggest difference between the two schools is that Utah is up front and honest about the financial motivations of their program, while BYU strives for the exact same thing, yet does it under the guise of "religion first".

The guise? Seriously, you don't think Religion comes first at BYU?

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Sport...-suspended-sports-world-shocked-and-impressed

https://content.usatoday.com/commun...ack-harvey-unga-is-likely-over/1#.UADwPpHpU8U

But ya, good call on telling someone else to have some intellectual honesty... Ute fans. So. Damn. Dumb.
 
The guise? Seriously, you don't think Religion comes first at BYU?

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Sport...-suspended-sports-world-shocked-and-impressed

https://content.usatoday.com/commun...ack-harvey-unga-is-likely-over/1#.UADwPpHpU8U

But ya, good call on telling someone else to have some intellectual honesty... Ute fans. So. Damn. Dumb.

You're right trout. BYU jumping to ESPN in the wake of Utah going PAC12 was obviously a religious first decision. Keep drinking the kool aid buddy.
 
You're right trout. BYU jumping to ESPN in the wake of Utah going PAC12 was obviously a religious first decision. Keep drinking the kool aid buddy.

So, 100+ years of tradition and dedication to those ideals goes right out the window simply because you're ashamed that your team sold out? Why, I can't believe that you would sink this low. Truly saddening.
 
If this is already posted, my bad -- but it sums it up pretty well. https://www.deseretnews.com/article...eir-culture-in-suspending-rivalry.html?pg=all

LOL Dont care PAC 12

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LOL Dont care PAC 12

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Awww, shiii, doe. Question, are you the tool I saw today in a Tundra with PUD12 stickers all over it? Which is it, fan of the conference, or a fan of the Utes? Did you even know they are partners now? (as in, they sleep together and do other homoerotic things after they bong 12 Keystones)
 
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