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Game Thread Nov 03, 2025 05:30PM MT: Utah Jazz @ Boston Celtics

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This is not what I'm saying. I'm just saying that W/L's probably aren't the only consideration when it comes to Will Hardy's lineup decisions, and some of those decisions may be to the developmental benefit of some players and at the expense of others.


I don't think whether Svi is a world beater or not has any bearing on what we're talking about. He is playing his role better than Brice is, and that is helpful to the other players on the court.


When healthy, the starters have included Walker, Flip and Keyonte - young players very much in need of development.

So just one last word on this because I think you're actually engaging in good faith discussion. I'd agree that Hardy's decisions aren't black and white. But I would say the driving factor in his decision to play prospects less is more related to the W than for player development. At the very least, he's given more care for the W that I would want. For me the right amount to care about the W is 0% or negative given the draft situation. I have a good feeling that there will be some point down the line where we had less wins than more.

I think Svi's ability is pretty central to the discussion. The whole argument is that his better play creates a better environment for others, so you have to weigh his level vs the level of prospect you're taking minutes away from. A replacement level player like Svi is going to affect the environment less than an all star like Lauri. It's more about where everyone falls in the priority order for those minutes. You're not gonna put Tonje in front of Lauri, but you're also not gonna put Anderson in front of Ace. Currently, Svi is far ahead of Ace, Hendricks, Walt, and Flip in minutes.

We'll see how tonight goes. If Collier is available and truly ready to play, whose minutes does he get? Could be Svi, Harkless, or a little bit of both. For me, Svi would be below all of the prospects. I'd play Brice, Cody, Collier, Harkless, and give the guys already playing more minutes before I gave Svi minutes. I did not think for one moment that we missed out on player development last season when Svi did not play, nor did I feel like we got more when he did.
 
I guess some people have trouble reading lmao. No one said these decisions dont affect W/L. We just said these decisions arent made because of W/L's. They are made to raise quality of play so they players we actually need to develop are developed. If you get left behind because you cant hang, you get left behind.
I feel like svi can't hang but isn't getting left behind.
 
I feel like svi can't hang but isn't getting left behind.
Like for instance, svi is considered a "shooter". That is his main skill.
He is shooting 40% from the field and 29% from 3 this season. He gets to the line 0.3 times per game. 1.6 assists. 3 rebounds.
He is 4th on the team in minutes behind Lauri, walker and key. (27 minutes per game)
I can't really see why he isn't getting left behind with his poor play other than him being 27 years old (which to me only adds to the reasons he should be left behind)

Brice, Cody, Clayton, flip and Hendricks, all young developmental players who are all getting way less minutes than svi, have all been better shooters than Svi even though svi is looked at as a shooter and the reason he is on the court.
 
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