Game Thread Nov 30, 2023 06:00PM MT: Jazz at Wolves

[Deleted member 365]

Keyonte is shooting 36 percent and 33 percent from 3. Not significantly better than THT and worse than both Sexton and Clarkson. Perhaps our best young prospect is Agbaji? At least he’s getting the reps and will hopefully learn from this.

I’d really like to see Hendricks and Sensabaugh. Let’s see what the rookies can do.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Giving them Conley was not a good idea.

Yep, that was a mistake. he might be the missing piece. The way he runs that team and gets easy shots for Rudy? Perfection. I wish we had someone who could get shots for others. I also wish we had a once a generation defensive player. We give up so many easy looks.

 

[SoUjazzfan]

View: https://twitter.com/Ben_Dowsett/status/1730268494506369436

Are you trying to ruin Cy's night?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

That’s why I asked to be reminded what we got cuz right now Minny looks like a contender while we have two sort of good players an a bunch of late first rounders. Given our last draft, I don’t have high expectations that those first rounders coming up will be anything or even play until the 2030s

You declared it lopsided and then asked. Felt like a sarcastic declaration. Our draft last year wasn’t bad. Keyonte shows a lot of promise and Taylor will figure it out.

I’m not sure what people wanted to do… keep Don and Rudy and be a six seed for a couple years until Rudy ages out and Donovan walks?

We crushed both trades. It will take a couple years but we should be able to build something with higher ceiling.

 

[KqWIN]

Alright, if we’re going to let Keyonte go and face plant like this (which is the right move)….why are Hendricks/Brice behind literally everyone? They have to overtake Luka, Potter, Juzang before even getting the chance to overtake Yurt, Simone, or Dunn. What are we even trying to do this season?

The question of “what is the point” looms large.

 

[KqWIN]

You declared it lopsided and then asked. Felt like a sarcastic declaration. Our draft last year wasn’t bad. Keyonte shows a lot of promise and Taylor will figure it out.

I’m not sure what people wanted to do… keep Don and Rudy and be a six seed for a couple years until Rudy ages out and Donovan walks?

We crushed both trades. It will take a couple years but we should be able to build something with higher ceiling.

I think it’s pretty clear what was “wanted” had the franchise gone the other direction and kept Rudy and Don. That team was not a sixth seed forever team. What was needed was better roster building decisions around Don and Rudy. It’s very difficult to trade for a Lauri Markannen or draft a Bane/McDaniels/Jones with limited resources. I get that. But there were moves to be made on the margin. Part of the problem is that the FO burned so many years on the same team that had clear and obvious flaws and refused to address them.

It’s very difficult to also get players like Don and Rudy on the same team at the same time. Maybe this path still seems easier, but I think “should” is a strong word. I think it’s difficult to get back to the position we were in.

I’m not even necessarily saying the FO made the wrong move, but it’s ain’t easy even after nailing (or lucking out) with Lauri.

 

[MTS]

I would have liked to see what the Jazz could have done if they traded Mitchell for an omega haul and kept Rudy.

 

[str8line]

View: https://twitter.com/Ben_Dowsett/status/1730268494506369436

That stat is a little skewed because to be fair Rudy is defending three guys while Walker is defending one.

 

[Elizah Huge]

That stat is a little skewed because to be fair Rudy is defending three guys while Walker is defending one.

I don’t think that is how the stat works.

 

[FrenchJazzFa]

That stat is a little skewed because to be fair Rudy is defending three guys while Walker is defending one.

Absolutly, stat here mean nothing. Rudy is everywhere. But shoud also be taken into consideration that Minny have others good defenders ( even KAT improve a lot) where in Utah......

 

[str8line]

I don’t think that is how the stat works.

Is it at-the-rim protection? If Rudy is recovering to the rim from controlling the entirety of the paint isn't he less likely to make the play at the rim? Or am I missing what the stat is about?

 

[FrenchJazzFa]

Giving them Conley was not a good idea.

Definitly it make a big difference. Mike this year get his best in career 104 Assist/14 TO, 7.1 Ratio, 2nd best in NBA and he shoot 58% from corner 3 ( 2nd in NBA too) . Plus he use Rudy the best way and KAT seems to get a good connection with him as well. Not a good trade definitly but when DA did it it was making sense.