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PearlWatson

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unluckyseventeen said:
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Those prices would be nice.

OBAMA in 2008: I think that I would have preferred a gradual adjustment. The fact that, ehh, this is such a shock t'American pocketbooks is not a good thing. Uh, but if we take some steps right now t', uh, help people make the adjustment -- first of all by putting more money into their pockets, but also by encouraging the market to adapt to these new circumstances more quickly, particularly US automakers.

OBAMA: Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.

OBAMA in 2008: If everybody in America inflated their tires to the proper levels we would probably save more oil than we get from John McCain drilling right below his feet there or wherever it was he was going to drill

~or~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzZNP4tTfV0


Bizarro World-The difference in the media coverage of gas prices between the Bush Administration and the Obama Administration
So we have just lived through the second biggest jump in gas prices in the history of the gas market and doesn’t it feel like the coverage by the media has been a little weak compared to the previous gas price increases in years past? I mean, I did see this headline at CNN, Libya Crisis Sends U.S. Gas Prices Up 33 Cents In Two Weeks but still, it just didn’t sound like the coverage we had back in 2008 or in 2005. I remember that coverage back then and it seemed that the evening news would just start off with the high cost of gas and pin the blame on President Bush or Republican lawmakers. In this article, Libya gets the blame. No mention of Obama or Democrats. Nice. So I wonder how did the media cover this previously and here is what I found out.

According to the Media Research Center, they analyzed network news reports from February 2008 and February 2011, periods when gasoline prices showed similar upward trajectories. The major news outlets carried 63 stories about rising gas prices in the 2008 period. They carried 24 in 2011. In 2008, those reports mentioned “Bush,” “the president” or “government” 15 times. In 2011, Obama and the government were mentioned once. Interesting. Indicates bias to me.
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https://clarionadvisory.com/?p=12608

Bush Links To Oil Rise Ran 15-1 Vs. Obama

https://www.investors.com/NewsAndAn...h-Links-To-Oil-Rise-Ran-15-To-1-Vs-Obama.aspx
 
Apples vs. Wheelbarrows.

Are you claiming there's a plausible link between the Obama administration and the Libyan instability? If there's not, why would Obama get mentioned when the story is about something else?
 
Sirkickyass said:
Apples vs. Wheelbarrows.

Are you claiming there's a plausible link between the Obama administration and the Libyan instability? If there's not, why would Obama get mentioned when the story is about something else?
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Millsapa said:
2008 Headline

High oil prices? Weak dollar? Blame Bush
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Is that an answer?

Also, what did those articles say about "Bush," "the government," etc? Your article just says they were mentioned. If we're doing any kind of qualitative analysis shouldn't the content of the speech about Bush mean something?
 
Millsapa said:
2008 Headline

High oil prices? Weak dollar? Blame Bush
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This seems to be an example of switching the scope of the discussion. Earlier your article frames this as a study of "network news reports."

That headline is an op-ed in the opinion section of politico. https://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/10940.html

So it's not a "network" and it's outside the umbrella of the news section. It's not even a staff politico writer, but a former Congressman doing a guest article.

For the record, I'm actually for a high gasoline price and advocated a $1/gallon gas tax when Bush was president and would support the same policy now. But this looks like an instance of you seeing what you want to see.
 
Sirkickyass said:
For the record, I'm actually for a high gasoline price and advocated a $1/gallon gas tax when Bush was president and would support the same policy now. But this looks like an instance of you seeing what you want to see.
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That would suck.

Did you ever buy that hybrid that you were debating on here a few years ago? I think it was a Honda or something? Little sports car.
 
The only way to be sure that gas prices don't go up would be to ensure a higher supply than demand. The largest increasing demands are China and India. So you can eliminate those demands through world war III, or accept that energy prices are going to keep increasing until some decides to use the energy source that economical and available- nuclear power.
 
Sirkickyass said:
Are you claiming there's a plausible link between the Obama administration and the Libyan instability? If there's not, why would Obama get mentioned when the story is about something else?
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It is commentary on the overall media coverage between the two situations and where the blame was placed.

Is Obama's lack of leadership on the Middle East "fires" contributing to the instability?

America's secret plan to arm Libya's rebels

Obama asks Saudis to airlift weapons into Benghazi

By Robert Fisk, Middle East Correspondent

Monday, 7 March 2011

Desperate to avoid US military involvement in Libya in the event of a prolonged struggle between the Gaddafi regime and its opponents, the Americans have asked Saudi Arabia if it can supply weapons to the rebels in Benghazi. The Saudi Kingdom, already facing a "day of rage" from its 10 per cent Shia Muslim community on Friday, with a ban on all demonstrations, has so far failed to respond to Washington's highly classified request, although King Abdullah personally loathes the Libyan leader, who tried to assassinate him just over a year ago.
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Meh the media generally have always had a liberal bias, with a few exceptions such as Fox News. But by and large the media and the stories we see are controlled by people that align far more with leftist philosophies than with more conservative views.
 
Holy ****, Millsapa is Obama Girl!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKsoXHYICqU
 
Duck Rodgers said:
Did you ever buy that hybrid that you were debating on here a few years ago? I think it was a Honda or something? Little sports car.
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If "by a few years ago" you mean "about "4 months ago" then yes. That car was for my girlfriend.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CR-Z

Millsapa said:
It is commentary on the overall media coverage between the two situations and where the blame was placed.
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It is commentary devoid of any content. Merely counting up mentions doesn't mean anything without any discussion of what those mentions were.

Is Obama's lack of leadership on the Middle East "fires" contributing to the instability?
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I strongly suspect Libya would be unstable either way. The US track record on contributing stability to the Middle East is not good. Although great job giving an excerpt from a London tabloid.

You realize that Fisk is the eponymous inspiration for Fisking right? Your side usually hates him because of exactly the kind of unsourced reporting on "secret" plans that you're citing above.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisking
 
Qman said:
The only way to be sure that gas prices don't go up would be to ensure a higher supply than demand. The largest increasing demands are China and India. So you can eliminate those demands through world war III, or accept that energy prices are going to keep increasing until some decides to use the energy source that economical and available- nuclear power.
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Why would this matter when speculators set the price of commodities sold?

Back in 07-08, when gas prices skyrocketed, the (worldwide) supply was the highest it had been in nearly a decade. The (worldwide) demand had actually decreased..... Yet prices more than doubled.

The sooner we understand the way commodities are bought and sold, and understand how little supply/demand figures into the actual price, the sooner we'll be able to find solutions.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Meh the media generally have always had a liberal bias, with a few exceptions such as Fox News. But by and large the media and the stories we see are controlled by people that align far more with leftist philosophies than with more conservative views.
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Is foxnews still considered news? I thought they were going for more of an opinion/commentary slant?
 
Sirkickyass said:
I strongly suspect Libya would be unstable either way. The US track record on contributing stability to the Middle East is not good. Although great job giving an excerpt from a London tabloid.

You realize that Fisk is the eponymous inspiration for Fisking right? Your side usually hates him because of exactly the kind of unsourced reporting on "secret" plans that you're citing above.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisking
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Wow that is certainly fascinating. Did Obama ask the Arabians to supply weapons to the Libyan rebels or not?
 
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