Off-Season Rumblings

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Proposed trade on bleacher report

The trade: Brandon Clarke, John Konchar, Ziaire Williams and the No. 39 pick to the Utah Jazz for John Collins

Na

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Another proposed trade

The trade: John Collins, the No. 29 pick and the No. 32 pick to the Miami Heat for Duncan Robinson and Caleb Martin

It made sense for the Jazz to acquire Collins for dirt cheap last summer. However, it became clear early on that he was unlikely to have a lengthy future in Utah. He just doesn't offer the volume shooting or defensive versatility that would help him fit with this core.

Utah should be (and probably is) seeking out alternatives, and this would be an intriguing one. Maybe a late first-round pick and early second-rounder feels a bit rich for a pair of role players, but this Jazz roster doesn't need three more rookies. What it could use is more shooting and better two-way play on the wing, and this package checks both boxes.

Robinson is an elite outside shooter who just averaged more than 2.5 triples on 37-plus percent shooting for the fourth time in five seasons. He's overpaid, but so is Collins, so the Jazz might opt for the cleaner fit. Especially if it meant getting Martin, a relentless worker on both ends who's shown flashes of high-end shot-making.

Martin would have to pick up his below-market $7.1 million player option for this deal to work, but maybe he'd do so with the promise of getting a long-term extension down the road.

Nah

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'm not desperate to get off Collins for multiple pieces of mid

 

[whatthe]

I would want the 39th pick in this draft for you know who, my fav (Chomche).

 

[framer]

I saw one the other day where Phoenix trades KD to OKC for Dort and 5 first round picks. However, one of those picks was provided by Utah, who gets Giddy and Dieng. I suspect it was probably one of our better picks. We also send out Collins to Phoenix as filler and get a signed and traded Gordon Hayward to even out the salaries.

There were some more random players moved, but that was the gist of it. What is the best pick you would give to make this happen?

 

[homeytennis]

The Jazz need to send players out and get one good guy. Part of the problem is the Jazz have had too many OK players and that makes Hardy's job much harder.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Just thinking of a couple potential John Collins trade ideas revolved around the draft. Let me know what you think:

John Collins + 10 to San Antonio for Zach Collins + 8

John Collins + 10 + 29 to Detroit for 5

 

[Ron Mexico]

The Collins hate is through the roof.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Just thinking of a couple potential John Collins trade ideas revolved around the draft. Let me know what you think:

John Collins + 10 to San Antonio for Zach Collins + 8

John Collins + 10 + 29 to Detroit for 5

The Detroit one is the only I've seen this far that makes me say yes

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The Collins hate is through the roof.

Yeah I’m not sure why the front office continues to have him on the block… they truly hate him.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Just thinking of a couple potential John Collins trade ideas revolved around the draft. Let me know what you think:

John Collins + 10 to San Antonio for Zach Collins + 8

John Collins + 10 + 29 to Detroit for 5

I’d do both of those. I doubt Detroit is using their space on Collins and letting us move up 5 spots.

 

[brooklynese]

Just thinking of a couple potential John Collins trade ideas revolved around the draft. Let me know what you think:

John Collins + 10 to San Antonio for Zach Collins + 8

John Collins + 10 + 29 to Detroit for 5

With Detroit for 5 if shep is still there