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*OFFICIAL* 17 on 26, Donovan Mitchell is the Monta Ellis watch thread

Lets not forget Sef was hurt also, and being older it will take him a bit to round back into shape. Yes, he's getting older but we have seen nowhere near his best this year. When he gets back to his best that will help also.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
This thread needs to be closed now!!!
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"the Jazz were eliminated during a series in which Mitchell put up ghastly efficiency playoff numbers — like, NBA-worst, even-worse-than-Russell-Westbrook efficiency

On at least 100 postseason field-goal attempts during the 2019 playoffs.

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How many more of these do idiots need to read before getting defensive/offensive about DM's atrocious efficiency?


https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...-but-will-it-be-enough/?addata=espn:frontpage
 
The incessant whining here is comical. "Mods, close thread wah, wah".

My record on these types of predictions is 100% accurate, yet here we are with more of the same. My perfect record has put a target on my back. Everyone wants to be the one to finally say I told you so.


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, @Thee jazz fan you gonna man up and back up that big mouth of yours? If DM averages his team efficiency or better in ts% then you can pick my new screen name. He shoots worse and I get to pick yours for a year. Maybe some of the more enlightened posters like @Shad will join in and make it 2:1, or better odds.
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
The incessant whining here is comical. "Mods, close thread wah, wah".

My record on these types of predictions is 100% accurate, yet here we are with more of the same. My perfect record has put a target on my back. Everyone wants to be the one to finally say I told you so.

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, @Thee jazz fan you gonna man up and back up that big mouth of yours? If DM averages his team efficiency or better in ts% then you can pick my new screen name. He shoots worse and I get to pick yours for a year. Maybe some of the more enlightened posters like @Shad will join in and make it 2:1, or better odds.
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No one knows who you are other than that you have a broken toilet as an avatar.
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
The incessant whining here is comical.
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This is comical, as you’re the one that’s started two or three threads about this.

I take it you don’t take your BIG AL and Corbin apologetics into account on your “record”? At a certain point, your obvious trolling is as tired as the group-think you think you’re crusading against.
 
NUMBERICA said:
This is comical, as you’re the one that’s started two or three threads about this.

I take it you don’t take your BIG AL and Corbin apologetics into account on your “record”? At a certain point, your obvious trolling is as tired as the group-think you think you’re crusading against.
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You mean how Utah always surpassed expected wins under Corbin and have (unfortunately) fallen short each season so far under QS?

Or how advanced stats proved all those Big Al sets y'all cried about for so long ended up being the most efficient Utah ran? Oh, that's right, that kept Alex Burke from becoming Dwayne Wade and pissed off poor Roger Braille. Who were all those other future All Star youngins Corbin held back by winning?
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
You mean how Utah always surpassed expected wins under Corbin and have (unfortunately) fallen short each season so far under QS?

Or how advanced stats proved all those Big Al sets y'all cried about for so long ended up being the most efficient Utah ran? Oh, that's right, that kept Alex Burke from becoming Dwayne Wade and pissed off poor Roger Braille. Who were all those other future All Star youngins Corbin held back by winning?
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lol, k m8.
 
Franklin is still stumping for Corbin? Good lord. The guy was a trash head coach.

There’s no doubt that you’re a very smart guy. . . but that will always be a bad take. It’s hard to see that as anything other than trolling.

That’s the wrong hill to die on friend.
 
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My question for Franklin is what do you want to see the team do with DM then? I'm in the camp that his efficiency will improve this year. Might not become Steph Curry but it'll get better with less pressure. So if it stays low what should they do? Trade while his perceived value is high? Dump it?
 
LogGrad98 said:
My question for Franklin is what do you want to see the team do with DM then? I'm in the camp that his efficiency will improve this year. Might not become Steph Curry but it'll get better with less pressure. So if it stays low what should they do? Trade while his perceived value is high? Dump it?
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I want him to improve too. I think he will but I have reservations that he'll ever become a very efficient player. A couple years here and there slightly above 57 ts% is his ceiling IMO, especially since he isn't risking an All Star bid by dropping his scoring down below 18 ppg.

Trading him isn't a realistic option. The fanbase would be irate for starters, and they're on board with a championship push this year. I think most of us believe it's possible too. However, his trade value would be insane and could net a lot if the right partner was found. Who is giving up a true closer tho? Nobody.
 
It's hilarious how so many basketball fans can't understand the concept of context. Donovan is a young second year player who plays one of if not the most difficult position in the league.... guard. He's also been the main scoring option on a poor to average scoring team in those l two seasons. And he's been the ONLY shot creator on said team. It is not surprising at all that he's been inefficient. Just about any player in his situation would be.

Odds are very good that this thread isn't going to age well. Now that the Jazz have more offense on this team and two more shot creators we're going to see Donovans true efficiency and it's likely going to be much higher.
 
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SCS said:
It's hilarious how so many basketball fans can't understand the concept of context. Donovan is a young second year player who plays one of if not the most difficult position in the league.... guard. He's also been the main scoring option on a poor to average scoring team in those l two seasons. And he's been the ONLY shot creator on said team. It is not surprising at all that he's been inefficient. Just about any player in his situation would be.

Odds are very good that this thread isn't going to age well. Now that the Jazz have more offense on this team and two more shot creators we're going to see Donovans true efficiency and it's likely going to be much higher.
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Nope, not allowed. I already banned all defenses used for Carmello Anthony's chucking career. Besides, this idea that a player needs to shoot because nobody else can - in other words those shots and scoring will disappear - has been shown numerous times to be a fallacy. If you're going to get snobbish and mock the idea of others as hillarious from your intellectually superior perch then you shouldn't proceed with utter bull ****.

DM didn't need to chuck shots. End of story. No excuses.
 
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