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Wouldn't say they don't 'miss' him, Memphis really struggled early on in the season and they only really came on strong at the end finishing 7th. Who knows what they would have done if Hollins was still the coach?


Granted, they're doing well in the playoffs, but guys like Udrih and Courtney Lee who the GM brought in this season have also stepped up.

Surely you remember that Memphis had a truckload of injuries. Or, is this a bit of selective memory on your part?

There's no doubt in my mind that Memphis had maxed out with Hollins at the helm.

 

[ema]

Messina's last five years in European basketball was all failure.
Big clubs that chose him (after spending hugely into strong rosters) have been sorry (Real Madrid, CSKA).
While he has not been able to do it in Europe for a serious length of time now, I can't logically see how he will be successful in NBA basketball,
after whatever span of time he will need for adjusting.
If the Jazz will be patient enough to give him like 5 years, without rethinking about it regardless of pain in the meantime, they might look forward to shifting to a certain degree of "European basketball mentality", and I wouldn't understand why that would be desirable anyway (I am a European myself.)

That krespino guy who was dogging Messina obviously doesnt know what hes talking about.

Yeah, make no mistake about it. The bar is pretty high for a coach like Messina. I too said earlier that he wasn't at top of his performance lately in his career but he can't be called unsuccessful by any means. The only experiment that didn't work out for Messina as exactly people have hoped was the Real Madrid run which in fact he still managed to compete and had decent achievements.

But anyway, here is the last 5 years of Messina.. Believe me, there are very few coaches that have these achievements in their entire careers.

3x Russian championships(2008-2009-2013) [Russian league is arguably the best domestic league after the ACB(Spanish League) in Europe]
1x Euroleage Championship(2008) [the best league in the world after the NBA]
1x Euroleague Final (2009)
2x Euroleague Final Four (2011, 2014)
1x Euroleague Final Eight (2010)
2x ACB Copa del Rey Final (2010, 2011)
2x Third place in ACB (2010-2011)

And don't forget that he spent the 2011-2012 season in LA as just a consultant.

The claim that CSKA being sorry for having Messina is nothing but laughable. Why would they be sorry to have a coach that made them one of the most successful teams of European Basketball history? He won with CSKA 5 Russian league titles, 2 Russian Cups, 2 Euroleague titles and went to two Euroleague finals, one Euroleague third place and one another Euroleague Final Four that is still going on. The CSKA fans sometimes can be angry at him but they know they have one of the best coaches in the world and don't want him to leave.

What would you say the reason for that is? He had been very successful between 1998-2008.

And this. Even had he collapsed entirely the last five years, how does it mean that he can't be successful in the NBA?

 

[Bodhi]

Also, if this was simply "reporters trying to get views" why wouldn't they pick a more sexy name to be the imaginary "front runner"?

I don't know about sexy, but at least in this market no one would draw more ire, and therefor listenership/readership, than the possibilty of Boylen getting the job. For about 2-3 days sports talk radio paid the bills off of listeners venting about the prospect of Boylen.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Wouldn't say they don't 'miss' him, Memphis really struggled early on in the season and they only really came on strong at the end finishing 7th. Who knows what they would have done if Hollins was still the coach?


Granted, they're doing well in the playoffs, but guys like Udrih and Courtney Lee who the GM brought in this season have also stepped up.

1. This is all about the playoffs
2. Gasol missed most of the year and he is easily their best and most important player
3. When hiring Some Guy to coach your team, early struggles are to be expected. Refer back to points 1 and 2.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Pls hire Messina and quit ****ing around with this Boylen business.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Yeah, make no mistake about it. The bar is pretty high for a coach like Messina. I too said earlier that he wasn't at top of his performance lately in his career but he can't be called unsuccessful by any means. The only experiment that didn't work out for Messina as exactly people have hoped was the Real Madrid run which in fact he still managed to compete and had decent achievements.

But anyway, here is the last 5 years of Messina.. Believe me, there are very few coaches that have these achievements in their entire careers.

3x Russian championships(2008-2009-2013) [Russian league is arguably the best domestic league after the ACB(Spanish League) in Europe]
1x Euroleage Championship(2008) [the best league in the world after the NBA]
1x Euroleague Final (2009)
2x Euroleague Final Four (2011, 2014)
1x Euroleague Final Eight (2010)
2x ACB Copa del Rey Final (2010, 2011)
2x Third place in ACB (2010-2011)

And don't forget that he spent the 2011-2012 season in LA as just a consultant.

The claim that CSKA being sorry for having Messina is nothing but laughable. Why would they be sorry to have a coach that made them one of the most successful teams of European Basketball history? He won with CSKA 5 Russian league titles, 2 Russian Cups, 2 Euroleague titles and went to two Euroleague finals, one Euroleague third place and one another Euroleague Final Four that is still going on. The CSKA fans sometimes can be angry at him but they know they have one of the best coaches in the world and don't want him to leave.



And this. Even had he collapsed entirely the last five years, how does it mean that he can't be successful in the NBA?

I will kick Dennis Lindsey in the balls. So. ****ing. Hard. If we don't hire Messina.

 

[The Midnight]

The claim that CSKA being sorry for having Messina is nothing but laughable. Why would they be sorry to have a coach that made them one of the most successful teams of European Basketball history? He won with CSKA 5 Russian league titles, 2 Russian Cups, 2 Euroleague titles and went to two Euroleague finals, one Euroleague third place and one another Euroleague Final Four that is still going on. The CSKA fans sometimes can be angry at him but they know they have one of the best coaches in the world and don't want him to leave.

It does happen sometimes.... ask PKM about Rick Pitino.

 

[ema]

It does happen sometimes.... ask PKM about Rick Pitino.

Lol, I see your point but don't be picky please. It's just figure of speech. Of course if Messina messes up big time, they would be sorry about it. But he didn't, he's given them a lot, the fans are aware of it and love him. That's why he returned to CSKA after the NBA experience.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Bim Joylen.


Get use to it mother****ers.

 

[mellow]

The lack of rumors or news from the jazz organization is bugging me. Yes, we all need a cooling off period so we don't get jazz burnout, but come on. It's a new week, leek a new name!

 

[slc]

Is DL back from Europe yet?
Nothing will happen till he gets back.

 

[Doublea]

I will kick Dennis Lindsey in the balls. So. ****ing. Hard. If we don't hire Messina.

I'm sure it's not Messina's dream to come coach the Jazz, so I'd be pretty surprised if we got him.