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How is that different from how Jewish people from Israel view Palestinians?
JimLes
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The most frustrating and exhausting thing about Antisemitism for me isn't even the daily reminders of my otherness or slurs you occasionally hear or having to read constant stories about anti-Jewish violence or even that little pang of panic I feel any time a stranger asks if I'm Jewish. It's that on top of all this, the society places the onus on the victims to defend and justify themselves.
Every year, our community in my city organizes all sorts of events to educate people about the Holocaust. Every year, we ask survivors among us to go share their stories at schools, at commemorations, and at public events. They tell their stories over and over again, relieving all the trauma each time. A dozen times a year I feel like I have to convince close friends and even gentile relatives that Antisemitism is real, that it's much more common than they realize, and that everyone in the community is deeply afraid. Half the time, I feel like they humour me, but don't really believe me.
And it's just so tiring. It feels like the responsibility for preventing another massive tragedy is on the Jews themselves. Make sure you don't piss off the gentiles enough for them to start killing you again. Remind them about just how easily a society can go down this way. Beg them, beg them to believe you.
When the Jewish community tells you something's Antisemitic, believe us. For ****'s sake, just believe us. Don't try to argue about it, don't try to think about it for yourself, don't try to "educate" yourself and make up your own mind. Just believe us. Even if we're wrong, err on the side of caution because maybe, just maybe, an entire community's right to feel safe is more important than Kyrie's right to stay stupid stuff online.
Every year, our community in my city organizes all sorts of events to educate people about the Holocaust. Every year, we ask survivors among us to go share their stories at schools, at commemorations, and at public events. They tell their stories over and over again, relieving all the trauma each time. A dozen times a year I feel like I have to convince close friends and even gentile relatives that Antisemitism is real, that it's much more common than they realize, and that everyone in the community is deeply afraid. Half the time, I feel like they humour me, but don't really believe me.
And it's just so tiring. It feels like the responsibility for preventing another massive tragedy is on the Jews themselves. Make sure you don't piss off the gentiles enough for them to start killing you again. Remind them about just how easily a society can go down this way. Beg them, beg them to believe you.
When the Jewish community tells you something's Antisemitic, believe us. For ****'s sake, just believe us. Don't try to argue about it, don't try to think about it for yourself, don't try to "educate" yourself and make up your own mind. Just believe us. Even if we're wrong, err on the side of caution because maybe, just maybe, an entire community's right to feel safe is more important than Kyrie's right to stay stupid stuff online.
JimLes
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Ah yes. Because I'm a Jew, I must automatically support dehumanization of Palestinians. And you're definitely not being Antisemitic here.
And because Kyrie believes in black Israelites he must be anti-semetic?
JimLes
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Udidthizz
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Indiana says hello too.
Sir the Pacers do not have a winning record.
All I see is a made up quote by yet another nutty religion that claims to be God's chosen people like every other nutty religion does.
Move this discussion to GD.
I'm 1/4 Ashkenazi Jewish with distant relatives who emigrated from Latvia/Lithuania to escape persecution in the early 20th century. I don't have a problem with views like this being expressed, and I don't insist that they be censored. The controversy stems from tribes of people from the Caucasus Mountains region who were Turkic and later mixed European/Turkic and who migrated from the Middle East through Eastern Europe during the early Roman Empire. These people converted to Judaism, but were not direct descendants of the original Hebrews. A faction of this group were known as Khazars. They were largely merchants and traders between Europe and Eurasia. They became Jewish, in name at least, via conversion. This may account for at least some significant percentage of modern white or European Jews, and they are largely distinguishable by their genetics.
Discussing these things and the history surrounding shouldn't be construed as 'anti-semitism' in my opinion. I have no idea what movie Kyrie is talking about. I haven't tuned in to what he's saying.
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