OT: Draymond punches Jordan Poole

[infection]

IDK man... I play a ton of basketball and the move where a guy gets in someones face and there is a shove is like a daily/weekly appearance. I've seen two punches thrown in like 25 years of playing. That shove was a "leave my space I'm done shove". The rationalization some are using reminds me of when folks say "That super pretty girl went out to the club wearing skimpy clothes... she should have expected someone to try and rape her".

I know that is wild and extreme but it follows the same logic. Dude shouldn't have been prepared for someone to throw a punch... someone he's known for years, is his teammate, and who he's likely talked a ton of **** with in the past.

Back in like 2001 or 2002 my brother and I were on a team at the Treehouse in Draper and we were at Lake Powell one week. Since we were both gone, there wasn’t enough players and so the facility grabbed a couple random people from the club to sub in. Anyway, dude apparently went nuts and started punching a bunch of people, blood and I think even a KO. They kicked our team out of the league. Can’t remember the specifics but I was like 17 at the time and if it were me now I’d definitely be going into the club Karening TF out of the management.

 

[Elizah Huge]

IDK man... I play a ton of basketball and the move where a guy gets in someones face and there is a shove is like a daily/weekly appearance. I've seen two punches thrown in like 25 years of playing. That shove was a "leave my space I'm done shove". The rationalization some are using reminds me of when folks say "That super pretty girl went out to the club wearing skimpy clothes... she should have expected someone to try and rape her".

I know that is wild and extreme but it follows the same logic. Dude shouldn't have been prepared for someone to throw a punch... someone he's known for years, is his teammate, and who he's likely talked a ton of **** with in the past.

Yeah, that shove was nothing. It’s not like he shoved him then went towards him it was a shove to create space.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Back in like 2001 or 2002 my brother and I were on a team at the Treehouse in Draper and we were at Lake Powell one week. Since we were both gone, there wasn’t enough players and so the facility grabbed a couple random people from the club to sub in. Anyway, dude apparently went nuts and started punching a bunch of people, blood and I think even a KO. They kicked our team out of the league. Can’t remember the specifics but I was like 17 at the time and if it were me now I’d definitely be going into the club Karening TF out of the management.

Buddy of mine got tossed from adult rec league and got a two year ban for punching a ref after the game. These are not NBA refs obviously so I have seen some pretty ****** behavior from the refs.... had a couple show up drunk to games... had one making calls then talking **** about it kind of like "I've got the power wtf you gonna do about it?". But that was definitely the worst fight I've seen.

There was this giant warehouse where there are like 10 courts and we'd play king of the court on monday nights. It got really big and teams started coming from Oakland and other parts of the bay area... Had to get my buddy to chill one night as he shoved a guy and like 25 people came out the stands... that one was scary.

Dray broke the code here and cold cocked a guy like half his size who wasn't expecting it.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Draymond is going to get suspended for half the year maybe more. Wouldn’t be all that surprised if he got released.

 

[rjfan]

IDK man... I play a ton of basketball and the move where a guy gets in someones face and there is a shove is like a daily/weekly appearance. I've seen two punches thrown in like 25 years of playing. That shove was a "leave my space I'm done shove". The rationalization some are using reminds me of when folks say "That super pretty girl went out to the club wearing skimpy clothes... she should have expected someone to try and rape her".

I know that is wild and extreme but it follows the same logic. Dude shouldn't have been prepared for someone to throw a punch... someone he's known for years, is his teammate, and who he's likely talked a ton of **** with in the past.

A vicious punch and rape sure are on distant ends of the spectrum (and not victim blamed), but I still avoid some pathways around where I live (especially at some hours) even being well aware that getting robbed (and any violence attached to It) shouldn't be called on me (and even that not being comparable to what a women can wear, nor where and when should they be, both in terms of how much of a abusive restriction It is for their lives, or the real correlation to vile actions that happens).

What i'm asking is pretty straightforward in terms of whether If there would 100% the same expected reaction from a shove being as likely from Green (not in the standpoint of what is right or wrong, but the especific individual response), as It would be from Klay, Kuminga, Looney or even Poole ? And I believe that could be asked even acknowledging that the punch shouldn't happen and should be called totally on one side

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Draymond is going to get suspended for half the year maybe more. Wouldn’t be all that surprised if he got released.

Less than 10 games is my guess. Before the tape was released he wasn't missing any based on the press conference they had yesterday.

I think they will look at it and say... if it was in game he'd get 7 gamesish...

 

[Elizah Huge]

Less than 10 games is my guess. Before the tape was released he wasn't missing any based on the press conference they had yesterday.

I think they will look at it and say... if it was in game he'd get 7 gamesish...

No way. I’m thinking 25 at minimum. I might be tripping but I think he’s getting a ton.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

A vicious punch and rape sure are on distant ends of the spectrum (and not victim blamed), but I still avoid some pathways around where I live (especially at some hours) even being well aware that getting robbed (and any violence attached to It) shouldn't be called on me (and even that not being comparable to what a women can wear, nor where and when should they be, both in terms of how much of a abusive restriction It is for their lives, or the real correlation to vile actions that happens).

What i'm asking is pretty straightforward in terms of whether If there would 100% the same expected reaction from a shove being as likely from Green (not in the standpoint of what is right or wrong, but the especific individual response), as It would be from Klay, Kuminga, Looney or even Poole ? And I believe that could be asked even acknowledging that the punch shouldn't happen and should be called totally on one side

I realize it was an extreme example... I just hate the general fact patter of that stuff. Probably not a great comparison.

I've shoved/been shoved like that IDK like 50+ times and no punches are thrown. You can tell no one expected a punch to be thrown cuz no one stepped in hard or early enough. It was normal behavior. What Dray did shocked everyone.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

No way. I’m thinking 25 at minimum. I might be tripping but I think he’s getting a ton.

Its stupid that the world works this way but the fact there is video matters... and its bad... so you might be right.

I just don't think the league wants to step in because its somewhat outside their scope... and to go from zero to more than 10 would be something people would mock the Warriors about.

We shall see.

 

[slc]

Could not hear what was being said but Jordan must have said something very nasty to Draymond
to trigger that response and even if he did not Draymond decided he did not like what Poole said

 

[Elizah Huge]

Its stupid that the world works this way but the fact there is video matters... and its bad... so you might be right.

I just don't think the league wants to step in because its somewhat outside their scope... and to go from zero to more than 10 would be something people would mock the Warriors about.

We shall see.

Oh that’s why I think it gets more than just 5-10 is because of the video. That is how the world works. Portis got 8 games with no video and it sounds like it wasn’t as bad as this was.

The fact that the Warriors weren’t going to do anything is troubling in itself.

Udoka got suspended for an entire year so I don’t think this gets treated lightly.

 

[slc]

Oh that’s why I think it gets more than just 5-10 is because of the video. That is how the world works. Portis got 8 games with no video and it sounds like it wasn’t as bad as this was.

The fact that the Warriors weren’t going to do anything is troubling in itself.

Udoka got suspended for an entire year so I don’t think this gets treated lightly.

Portis busted Mirotic up pretty badly
Poole did not seem to be hurt
Seems like what Portis did was worse