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Our off-season salary cap situation

stitches said:
That's really weird for me.

So when is the decision made about whether or not one qualifies for the 5M or for the 3M MLE? What date? Before the draft? After the draft but before free agency?
I just thought of something. What if we do a draft night trade that puts us above the cap? Would we have the standard MLE exception then?
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The new salary cap is set after the July Moratorium. I don't think there is a specific date whether or not one qualifies for the MLE. Could be wrong tho. It should be possible to keep Trevor at first and look for a homerun and after you have an agreement with a FA you call the league office and cut Trevor and renounce all the cap holds and exceptions.
Again not sure but should be.
 
Sadly, I think we'll get something like the 10th pick. I also think we will keep Trevor. Knowing that, and also knowing that deals are typically tiered upward, I think there's a shot we could get Matthews at about 13M per with the first year under that 11.8M threshold. I'd love it. That would be 11 guys and we could sign a couple vets at the minimum and keep our 2nd rounder.

Exum-Burke-vet pg
Matthews-Burks-Millsap
Hayward-Hood-vet
Favors-Booker-Jarrett
Gobert-WCS-Dakari Johnson

That's a hell of a roster potentially. Great defensively.

I doubt DL makes an offer for Wes though. We'd be tight money-wise. But to me, if Millsap or Hood or even Booker developed offensively, Burks to me would become somewhat expendable. Trading him next year for expirings and a pick, and the huge increase cap would then all of a sudden give us a nice cushion with the cap again.
 
I think it's more likely the Jazz use Booker in a trade to a team looking to shed salary to sign free agents than use their space to sign a significant player themselves. The guarantee date on Booker's contract is 7 days after the July moratorium ends (when players can actually sign), and he comes with only a $250k buyout. The Jazz could then use their remaining cap space to bring over Pleiss, Tomic or both to fill out the bigs rotation.

Note: Booker can be traded for players making up to $7,262,500 in the offseason. The receiving team could then waive Booker for $250,000, creating as much as $7,012,500 in cap space. A very crafty signing by DL.
 
stitches said:
(edit: you can ignore the following, my understanding of how qualifying for MLE works was flawed, Primetime's numbers should be better representation of the situation)
Right now yes, because we are under cap. But what if we get above(or right under) the salary cap? Then we can use the standard non-taxpayer MLE(which is about 5.45M this year). My idea relies on us being able to postpone the decision about Booker past free agency. For example, if the deadline for extending Booker is August 1 and FA starts on July 10, we have 20 days to sign free agents and get above the soft salary cap. At which point we can get the 5M MLE and sign Booker with it. I don't know if that makes sense.


(edit: you can ignore the following, my understanding of how qualifying for MLE works was flawed, Primetime's numbers should be better representation of the situation)
Again, I'm relying that we would be close to or past the salary cap, at which point we can sign our rookies using the rookie exception. And I'm relying on signing them AFTER we are done with whatever free agency activity we have.

In general the plan is:
1. Go into free agency with 66.3M cap and about 50.3M tied in contracts.
2. Sign free agents for about 16M(so yah, my bad, it's not 18M, it's 16M)...
3. Activate non-taxpayer MLE and use it on Booker
4. Activate rookie exceptions and sign the new rookies with the rookie exceptions.

This whole thing relies on us being able to postpone giving Booker his contract until after we are done with free agency/trades. If not, we will have about 11M to spend in free agency if we extend him and about 16M if we don't...
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Nope. Can't do it. We're technically pretty near the cap with all the exceptions and the rookie salary hold for our 1st rounder. There also have to be 12 players figured in the total. So even if you had ZERO players under contract and renounced the rights to everyone, your cap hit would include the slot for your first rounder and about $515K for each player up to the 12 (plus your exceptions).

WITH Booker and Millsap, a cap hold of $2M for our 1st rounder (just my guess as to where we finish), and an additional spot for that 12th contract, we'd be at about $55M. renounce Booker and that saves $4.3M (have to add back in a minimum salary hold). Renounce Millsap and save about $400K (again, his salary less the add back for a roster spot). So we could get down to about $50M. However, to have the entire amount available under the cap of $16M (given a $66.3M cap), Utah would need to renounce their exceptions. The only one that remains after doing that is the room MLE, which is about 1/2 the non-tax payer MLE. So that COULD be used to turn around and re-sign Ingles and Millsap for $1M each.

I doubt we're going after any max-level FA's. And I'll bet DL picks up the option for Booker. He's too valuable to let go. As mentioned, Ingles and Millsap could be renounced and re-signed if DL needs to squeeze every dollar of space to sign FA's. Certainly you kick the tires on Matthews. But I think DMC is a more likely target given his close relationship with Quin Snyder.
 
Why is your math different than my math? What am I missing? If you look at all the players you've listed that we have under contract next year, it comes out to 46 million. The cap is expected to be 66.

That's 20 million in cap space. Yeah, we will have to sign our pick, but that will be 2-3 million, leaving us with 17 million in cap space.

Where am I off? I'm using your numbers here.
 
GVC said:
I think it's more likely the Jazz use Booker in a trade to a team looking to shed salary to sign free agents than use their space to sign a significant player themselves. The guarantee date on Booker's contract is 7 days after the July moratorium ends (when players can actually sign), and he comes with only a $250k buyout. The Jazz could then use their remaining cap space to bring over Pleiss, Tomic or both to fill out the bigs rotation.
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Losing Kanter and then Booker for these two clowns would be a monstrous downgrade.
 
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