over/under jazz wins- 25.5
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akirac73
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Call me crazy, but I'd also take the over on Philly at 15.5 wins. Philly won 19 games last season even with the obvious incentive to tank. MCW has a year under his belt, and Nerlens Noel will finally play, I just don't see them getting worse. If anything they'll be the same.
And yes, I will bet the over on the Jazz...it's a no-brainer.
Call me crazy, but I'd also take the over on Philly at 15.5 wins. Philly won 19 games last season even with the obvious incentive to tank. MCW has a year under his belt, and Nerlens Noel will finally play, I just don't see them getting worse. If anything they'll be the same.
And yes, I will bet the over on the Jazz...it's a no-brainer.
They also have Thaddeus Young for 0% of the year this year.
They also have Thaddeus Young for 0% of the year this year.
Stifle Tower
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I'd take issue with most of your observations. All 4 young players have improved. Hayward's shooting % decreased, but assists and rebounds were up. Favors has improved significantly in terms of his offense. Evans has a decent mid-range shot, although he's really not that big a part of the rotation, so insignificant.
I'm not putting "money" on Booker and Novak. I'm just pointing out that the difference between those two and Jefferson/Marvin is essentially zero - and maybe even an upgrade. And as for the PG situation, ANYTHING Exum contributes will be better than what Utah had for the first part of the season with Lucas/Tinsley.
Point is, Jazz didn't really lose anything important from last season (unless you're arguing addition by subtraction). Lindsey strengthened the bench. The team will actually be focused on defense and ball movement. No, this is NOT a 50-win team. They WON'T make the playoffs (although a Phoenix type effort might be a possibility). But 25 wins - i.e. NO improvement - is a ridiculous prediction.
da ThRONe
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These are all excellent points. However you can't undervalue a significant upgrade in coaching. Going from a terrible coach to an average coach should yield a bigger improvement than going from a good coach to a great coach. Snyder even if just decent his 1st year will make a huge difference for the Jazz.
I'd take the over, but I'm a believer that Trey Burke if healthy will take a huge leap in production and efficiency in his 2nd year under a PNR coach like Quin Snyder.
It seems like these guys know what they're doing when making a prediction. See last year's prediction and result, for example.
Stifle Tower
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Yes, I should have mentioned coaching. Give Quin the team last season and I'll bet he gets 30+ wins out of them.
Really, the season was divided up into three parts, IMO.
1. The terrible 1-14 start due to a brutal schedule and Burke's injury resulting in two of the worst PG's in the league running the team.
2. The 20-22 run through the end of February. The team was respectable. Certain players were struggling, but the effort was there.
3. The 4-21 "tank" to finish the season. It was clear Corbin had lost the team and everyone but Burke was just playing out the season.
Stifle Tower
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Yep. And they hit the nail on the head the year Sloan took the team to 1 win shy of the playoffs when the Jazz were predicted to have the worst record in the history of the NBA. Had it not been for the 4-21 "tank" to finish the season, the Jazz could have/should have finished with 30-35 wins.
With a new coach and players fighting for roster spots and new contracts, I seriously doubt you will see the same level of tanking this year. Lindsey hasn't gone out and spent cap space on acquiring washed up vets for future picks.