Paris under attack

[addictionary]

Rudy is a good man.


https://twitter.com/rudygobert27/status/666167559369068549


Unlike many ethnocentric white boys of the Western civilization.

 

[moevillini]

Since this was an intelligence failure, one thing I see being mentioned now and then in the TV coverage is the so-called dark web. I guess it's likely the operatives communicated there, assuming there was any electronic communication at all. These are older articles.

https://www.businessinsider.com/isis-is-using-the-dark-web-2015-7

https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2015/02/how-military-will-fight-isis-dark-web/105948/

quite a while back I listened to a very interesting podcast about the "dark web" - - and bitcoin and what-not and how all sorts of criminal elements are using it to procure and/or distribute drugs and weapons
(I'll edit in a link if I can find it)

edit: KCRW (from Santa Monica, CA) podcast of "To The Point from Aug 21, 2013 "The Dark Side of the Cloud"
https://www.kcrw.com/news-culture/shows/to-the-point/the-dark-side-of-the-internet-anonymity-after-all

(actually there was also a separate podcast a few months later about bitcoin that was also interesting)

 

[Siro]

4. Some degree of ability to connect to Paris victims because they are white

Oh really? Well, then you'll want to know that Turks aren't all that much darker than the French. Are you feeling more connected?

 

[Stoked]

Oh really? Well, then you'll want to know that Turks aren't all that much darker than the French. Are you feeling more connected?

Do you deny that to some degree that plays a role? It is not the only factor but it does exist.

 

[addictionary]

Do you deny that to some degree that plays a role? It is not the only factor but it does exist.

It's not about belonging to the white race it's about belonging to the Western Civilization. You don't react to it more than the over 100 dead bodies came out of Ankara, Turkey because they are white. Even if they are black skinned they still belong to the Western Civilization. And it's not about religion too. Israel's people are Middle-Eastern and they are located in the Middle-East because they would like to do so, but since Adam Sandler is such a funny dude, they are part of the Western Civilization. Nothing to feel shame about admitting that. I love Adam Sandler, one of my favorites so I have hard time getting angry at Israel because of that.

 

[addictionary]

But as a Turkish person I still feel a little disappointed because no one made their facebook profile covered with Turkish flag.

It's a great cool flag too.

 

[addictionary]

Sorry that I joke about this kind of pure insanity. There just is not anything left to do. Hits like that are the times when anything logical or mindful stops and only insanity takes place. I hope good people of Earth stand together against terrorism of any kind, even if it's made by an organisation or a state. There is no other way out of that. Any no easy way out too.

 

[Siro]

It's not about belonging to the white race it's about belonging to the Western Civilization. You don't react to it more than the over 100 dead bodies came out of Ankara, Turkey because they are white. Even if they are black skinned they still belong to the Western Civilization. And it's not about religion too. Israel's people are Middle-Eastern and they are located in the Middle-East because they would like to do so, but since Adam Sandler is such a funny dude, they are part of the Western Civilization. Nothing to feel shame about admitting that. I love Adam Sandler, one of my favorites so I have hard time getting angry at Israel because of that.

Adam Sandler is awful, but you're right about the rest. It has nothing to do with whiteness. Nobody would give a **** if, say, Bosnia was attacked, regardless of what wavelengths their skin reflects. If a black neighborhood in Harlem was bombed, the press would go wild.

None the less, Stoked is admitting that at least to some white people, perceived race determines the value of one's life. I find that incredibly sad.

 

[addictionary]

Some Muslims have that extremist interpretation of Islam, some don't. You'd think that's obvious.

I think what is being called as extremist Islam is actually the misinterpretation of the religion. Because when you say extremism, it offers that you take what is already there and push it to the limit. It's practicing it wrong. Unfortunately there are a lot of terrorist acts and warfare that puts Islam religion in the place of rage and fury, but there are many reasons for that. It definitely is not about a certain religion. Christianity took a lot of lives too for purely religious and land related reasons with Crusades and such and the Arabian culture was superior to them. Was that about the violence back then? Did Saladin Ayyubi think "Man, Christianity is such a violent religion." ? Nope he opened doors and gave freedom and life to the lost Christians. Because it's about civilization. You put their humanity above their religion when the effort is over.

ISIS is not born out of magic.

Someone created it.

Someone is trying to color your sight with the sign of "Islam is violence" notion.

Try to stay away from this.

 

[Siro]

I think what is being called as extremist Islam is actually the misinterpretation of the religion. Because when you say extremism, it offers that you take what is already there and push it to the limit. It's practicing it wrong. Unfortunately there are a lot of terrorist acts and warfare that puts Islam religion in the place of rage and fury, but there are many reasons for that. It definitely is not about a certain religion. Christianity took a lot of lives too for purely religious and land related reasons with Crusades and such and the Arabian culture was superior to them. Was that about the violence back then? Did Saladin Ayyubi think "Man, Christianity is such a violent religion." ? Nope he opened doors and gave freedom and life to the lost Christians. Because it's about civilization. You out their humanity above their religion when the effort is over. ISIS is not born out of magic. Someone created it. Someone is trying to color your sight with the sign of "Islam is violence" notion. Try to stay away from this.

And who are you to say that they're "practicing it wrong"? They have their Muslim scholars who support their interpretation. They are extremist because of their actions relative to the norms in the modern world.

Similarly, Middle Age Christianity was not some "misinterpretation" that they eventually got right. It was just the way religion was practiced then, which was not "extremist" compared to the norms of their times. If you have a sect that acts like Medieval Christians today, then they would be considered extremist.

 

[Stoked]

It's not about belonging to the white race it's about belonging to the Western Civilization. You don't react to it more than the over 100 dead bodies came out of Ankara, Turkey because they are white. Even if they are black skinned they still belong to the Western Civilization. And it's not about religion too. Israel's people are Middle-Eastern and they are located in the Middle-East because they would like to do so, but since Adam Sandler is such a funny dude, they are part of the Western Civilization. Nothing to feel shame about admitting that. I love Adam Sandler, one of my favorites so I have hard time getting angry at Israel because of that.

I think it all plays a role to some degree. All I am saying.

 

[addictionary]

And who are you to say that they're "practicing it wrong"? They have their Muslim scholars who support their interpretation. They are extremist because of their actions relative to the norms in the modern world.

Similarly, Middle Age Christianity was not some "misinterpretation" that they eventually got right. It was just the way religion was practiced then, which was not "extremist" compared to the norms of their times. If you have a sect that acts like Medieval Christians today, then they would be considered extremist.

Religious leaders tell you to kill people.

Religious people are not religion's own.

Read the books and make up your own mind.

If there is humanity left in you, then you will find the truth no matter what religion you practice or find it in your seeking of knowledge as an Atheist.