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Pick is Gordon Hayward; ESA crowd boos

SaltyDawg said:
We still have to either sign Boozer or replace him too. So it's more than just maybe having to replace Okur, but also Boozer.

We really needed to draft a big guy. Especially when some of the big guys on the board were at least comparable in talent level, and rated higher than Hayward on almost every mock draft.
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I agree, and I've been saying last summer (posting as skorol before the profiles were wiped out) that we need Booz and that we should extended him when his stock was at all time low - year ago, not when it is at all time high (now). I feel we have to get Booz back even now or at least trade him for a comparable player. With that said, we are paying good money to Millsap. So, getting PF to me was not a need. I know we can count on Millsap to deliver 18 and 10, as he did that when Booz was out. Miles on the other hand is much less consistent and can use competition. C is a need, I agree with you, but scrubs that were left are simply replication of Koufos/Fess, and I just felt it was not wise to take yet another gamble on someone like Aldrich and have him play in DLeague. Hayward, on the other hand, seems like he might actually take Miles' spot at SF. The guy accomplished a lot - read my other post. He won at HS. He won at World championships. And now he actually was THE leader of his team to NCAA title game, with 25 game winning streak in the process. As a 20 year old sophmore. This cannot just be easily discounted.
 
InGameStrategy said:
I've been one of the most vocal Fesenkophiles on this board (and its last incarnation), and I would say that Ed Davis--if he stays healthy--has more upside than Fesenko (and of course KK2). Paul George might. Hayward does not. All three were available.
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For the last time, George shot 42% from Forward spot for a piece of garbage school. You must be insane to think he is a better pick than Hayward. As far as Ed Davis, what has he done to deserve high accolades? He couldn't even lead his school to being ranked. His numbers are mediocre. 13.5 and 9.5 for a non ranked school as a junior is not exactly amazing. Even with 2.7 blocks to boot. Koufos is the same age as him now and had a better career as a freshman than Ed as a junior. The guys you are mentioning are just not better prospects than Hayward.
 
Borat said:
I agree, and I've been saying last summer (posting as skorol before the profiles were wiped out) that we need Booz and that we should extended him when his stock was at all time low - year ago, not when it is at all time high (now). I feel we have to get Booz back even now or at least trade him for a comparable player. With that said, we are paying good money to Millsap. So, getting PF to me was not a need. I know we can count on Millsap to deliver 18 and 10, as he did that when Booz was out. Miles on the other hand is much less consistent and can use competition. C is a need, I agree with you, but scrubs that were left are simply replication of Koufos/Fess, and I just felt it was not wise to take yet another gamble on someone like Aldrich and have him play in DLeague. Hayward, on the other hand, seems like he might actually take Miles' spot at SF. The guy accomplished a lot - read my other post. He won at HS. He won at World championships. And now he actually was THE leader of his team to NCAA title game, with 25 game winning streak in the process. As a 20 year old sophmore. This cannot just be easily discounted.
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I agree that he accomplished a lot. But it doesn't change the fact that if Boozer walks and Okur isn't the same as he was he used to be, the Jazz are a lottery team.

There were at least 3 or 4 pf and c that the Jazz could have taken to replace Boozer and/or Okur, who were all comparable in talent to Hayward.

Also, on Miles, I thought he was pretty darn good in the playoffs. He struggled earlier in the season because he was injured early and then had his role change a couple of times. But in the playoffs he was very good, both offensively and defensively.

Well it's nice to know you're skorol, because your opinion on these things has historically been better than just about anyone else's on the board, so at least that gives me some hope. I hope you're right this time, as you have been in the past...
 
"Coach Jerry Sloan said the boos comprised a “natural reaction” for fans who “aren’t familiar with what we’re trying to accomplish. We’re trying to get the best player, and sometimes that’s not who everybody wanted.”

The Jazz wanted Hayward, though, for his versatility, intelligence and ball-handling...They believed Hayward was the best player on the floor while leading the Bulldogs through the West Regional of the NCAA Tournament at EnergySolutions Arena in March, and said that every coach with whom they spoke praised Hayward as “the kind of kid that everybody should want on their team, because not only is he a guy that makes everyone better but he’s really a good player by himself.”

https://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/49824032-76/hayward-jazz-pick-connor.html.csp?page=1

Mebbe that's why Deron was excited about him, eh?
 
Hopper said:
"Coach Jerry Sloan said the boos comprised a “natural reaction” for fans who “aren’t familiar with what we’re trying to accomplish. We’re trying to get the best player, and sometimes that’s not who everybody wanted.”

The Jazz wanted Hayward, though, for his versatility, intelligence and ball-handling...They believed Hayward was the best player on the floor while leading the Bulldogs through the West Regional of the NCAA Tournament at EnergySolutions Arena in March, and said that every coach with whom they spoke praised Hayward as “the kind of kid that everybody should want on their team, because not only is he a guy that makes everyone better but he’s really a good player by himself.”

https://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/49824032-76/hayward-jazz-pick-connor.html.csp?page=1

Mebbe that's why Deron was excited about him, eh?
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Or it is because Deron knows the PC thing to say? What is he supposed to say? Hayward was a terrible pick. Bye bye Deron. Hope you win elsewhere.
 
Hopper said:
"Coach Jerry Sloan said the boos comprised a “natural reaction” for fans who “aren’t familiar with what we’re trying to accomplish. We’re trying to get the best player, and sometimes that’s not who everybody wanted.”

The Jazz wanted Hayward, though, for his versatility, intelligence and ball-handling...They believed Hayward was the best player on the floor while leading the Bulldogs through the West Regional of the NCAA Tournament at EnergySolutions Arena in March, and said that every coach with whom they spoke praised Hayward as “the kind of kid that everybody should want on their team, because not only is he a guy that makes everyone better but he’s really a good player by himself.”

https://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/49824032-76/hayward-jazz-pick-connor.html.csp?page=1

Mebbe that's why Deron was excited about him, eh?
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Well Sloan is right about one thing... fans aren't familiar with what in the holy hell they are trying to accomplish!!

No way Hayward was the 'best player' at #9.
 
Hopper said:
Says there: "Put it all together, and Hayward just might end up being the best small forward out of this year's class." This guy sounds like an even bigger fool than Sloan, eh?
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Well we just gave away a young sf who was a lottery pick himself a few years ago because we supposedly had too much depth at the position. And our starting center just had the same injury that ruined Elton Brand (who was much better than Okur before his injury). And our starting power forward is about to leave as a free agent.

All things considered, drafting a sf seems like a big mistake unless we have another move planned. Unless the kid turns out to be a superstar or something, but that looks pretty unlikely.
 
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