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Pierce, Kemba, Utah

Jazz Spazz said:
I don't think pastrami meant height. I'm not good at this sarcasm stuff.
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What do you think he meant by kemba and Mitchell being too small but conley and Mitchell not being to small? And what did he mean by conley has better size than kemba?
Kemba: 6 foot 1 and 184 lbs.
Mike conley: 6 foot 1 and 175 lbs.

What am I missing? Or do you think his entire post was being sarcastic like he was trying to say that they are the same in a sarcastic way? What did that post mean?
I took it as sincerity and don't see any sign of sarcasm. He seemed to have good points (and true points) about conley being a better defender and better suited to play off ball.
 
NUMBERICA said:
For the record, the last time I ran the numbers, the Jazz can actually get max cap room without dumping Exum and will have a couple of million leftover (+ the room exception). Of course, that means letting everyone walk that can, but, yeah.
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I'm pretty sure we can have around $33 million available if we renounce Favors, Rubio, Thabo, Udoh, Niang, and Neto.

The Salary Cap for 2019-20 will be $109 million (up $7 million from 18-19).
The Luxury Tax Limit will be $134 million (up $8 million from 18-19).
https://sports.yahoo.com/report-nba-sets-salary-cap-2019-20-2020-21-seasons-020033583.html

For 2019-20, here are the contracts:
Gobert $25
Ingles $12
Exum $9.6
Crowder $7.8
Korver $7.5 ($3.5 ETO - but not happening)
Mitchell $3.6
Allen $2.5
Bradley $2
O'Neale $1.6 (team option - but not happening)
Draft pick cap hold $2
Lowest Salary Realistically Possible: $76 Million (includes minimum salaries to meet full roster requirement)

Favors $16.9 (team option on 7/6/2019)
Neto $2 (team option on 7/6/2019)
Niang $1.6 (team option - guarantees 1/10/20)
TOTAL: $94 million (if we picked up all team options)

These guys count against cap space until we either re-sign or renounce them
Rubio $22.5 cap hold
Thabo $6.8 cap hold
Udoh $4.4 cap hold
 
colton said:
There is no way Favors signs for 12.5 million in first year
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He took a long term team friendly contract once before. I think he would take a four year averaging 14 million over 2 years at 19 million somewhere else to stay with the Jazz. It certainly is not out of the question. Is someone going to pay Favors 20 million over 4 years?
 
framer said:
He took a long term team friendly contract once before. I think he would take a four year averaging 14 million over 2 years at 19 million somewhere else to stay with the Jazz. It certainly is not out of the question. Is someone going to pay Favors 20 million over 4 years?
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It was a fair-market deal at the time he signed his extension.

I don't know what Favors' hopes and motivations are, nor do I know his market. I could see him taking as low as $12 million a year on a multi-year (because what is his actual market in this NBA?), but I think it's more likely he either gets his option exercised at $18 million, or he signs a one-year deal on a steep discount with the Jazz retaining Bird Rights and getting a longterm deal the next year (even though this is in essence, but not technically, circumventing the CBA).
 
NUMBERICA said:
It was a fair-market deal at the time he signed his extension.

I don't know what Favors' hopes and motivations are, nor do I know his market. I could see him taking as low as $12 million a year on a multi-year (because what is his actual market in this NBA?), but I think it's more likely he either gets his option exercised at $18 million, or he signs a one-year deal on a steep discount with the Jazz retaining Bird Rights and getting a longterm deal the next year (even though this is in essence, but not technically, circumventing the CBA).
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Silver is going to dock Jazz draft picks for that.
 
A top flight PG really puts this squad over the top. Love Rubio's spirit, shtick, etc. but we need a stud to put next to 45.
 
gregbroncs said:
Favors at this point is worth 2X as much as Love. I would be very disappointed if we end up with Love at all.
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I’m just the messenger.

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There’s a couple of ways to get to a max salary slot if the Jazz can convince someone to buy in to coming to Utah.

If they want to open a slot AND keep Favors, it’s a little more tricky but still possible.

The hard part is getting a legit star to want to come play for the Jazz.
 
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