Planned Parenthood Selling Baby Organs

[Archie Moses]

So how do all of you anti "murder" folks feel about in vitro fertilization? What about all those embryos that get frozen and eventually disposed of?

Are you consistent in your morals? Or is it only murder in one case but not the other?

This is a clown question, Moe. Step your game up. We're not even in the same ball park.

Lol. Anti "murder."

 

[Gameface]

... i could explain what you dont get. but seems like people dont listen to me around these here parts...

Could have something to do with signal to noise ratio

 

[RandyForRubio]

That's fine. Because the government's hands were bound to help a woman who didn't want a pregnancy, she's now enslaved to living a lifestyle not of her choosing for 9 months. Which is, in effect, causing the government to pay for a heinous act of slavery, kidnapping, and battery.

And you still aren't respecting that there's not enough evidence to even call it murder.

I didn't wanna get drunk, but I drank alcohol and it just happened.

I didn't wanna get high, but I smoked weed and it just happened.

These are all preventable things. Sure she probably didn't wanna get pregnant, but don't act like she didn't willingly involve herself in an act that makes pregnancy possible! So now she wants to punish somebody, somebody's body, because it's her body and she gets to choose what to do with it. Well she did choose. She had sex knowing she could get pregnant, but now it's not her fault? And what gives her the right to harm somebody because it's her body? This whole issue comes down to whether somebody is wanted or not. That's how we're choosing who lives...whether they're wanted or not. And that's sad. It's sad people don't want to be responsible for their actions. It's sad this is an option. And it's sad that people on both sides are shamed, put down, and vilified. It's sad that there are roughly 400k babies killed a year, and adoptions cost $30k. The whole industry is sad.

 

[Deleted member 848]

So how do all of you anti "murder" folks feel about in vitro fertilization? What about all those embryos that get frozen and eventually disposed of?

Are you consistent in your morals? Or is it only murder in one case but not the other?

Any reasonable pro-life thinker would be against IVF. If life begins at conception, then essentially creating 20 lives while only choosing one to prevail is still technically the killing of a new species (or several of them in this instance).

 

[NAOS]

If adoptions cost less, then wombs might become farms. You can preach about this issue from the standpoint of morals, but the change you seek will fall back hard on the economic realities of our times.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Any reasonable pro-life thinker would be against IVF. If life begins at conception, then essentially creating 20 lives while only choosing one to prevail is still technically the killing of a new species (or several of them in this instance).

I would have to agree with this.

Kind of a neat story, but a couple from our community had to go through this to have kids, and they only wanted a couple. Anyways, I think she ended up with 6 that were fertilized, 3 sets of twins. So they were conflicted because that was more than they wanted, and twins! Twins are difficult. Anyways, they ended up using all of them over the course of a few years because they felt it would be murder not to. Unfortunately, it seems that most don't feel this way.

 

[RandyForRubio]

If adoptions cost less, then wombs might become farms. You can preach about this issue from the standpoint of morals, but the change you seek will fall back hard on the economic realities of our times.

And I agree. It's unfortunately not a perfect solution. We're not going to have one because as people, not a one of us is perfect. I feel that it would be an improvement, but you're absolutely correct in saying there could/would be corruption, especially for money.

 

[NAOS]

..... and, alas, infanticide is as old as human history.....

 

[Stoked]

Any reasonable pro-life thinker would be against IVF. If life begins at conception, then essentially creating 20 lives while only choosing one to prevail is still technically the killing of a new species (or several of them in this instance).

Not necesarrily. I think it all depends on when each person thinks "life" begins. I start really having a problem when the unborn child has a viable chance outside the womb of making it.

 

[fishonjazz]

I didn't wanna get drunk, but I drank alcohol and it just happened.

I didn't wanna get high, but I smoked weed and it just happened.

These are all preventable things. Sure she probably didn't wanna get pregnant, but don't act like she didn't willingly involve herself in an act that makes pregnancy possible! So now she wants to punish somebody, somebody's body, because it's her body and she gets to choose what to do with it. Well she did choose. She had sex knowing she could get pregnant, but now it's not her fault? And what gives her the right to harm somebody because it's her body? This whole issue comes down to whether somebody is wanted or not. That's how we're choosing who lives...whether they're wanted or not. And that's sad. It's sad people don't want to be responsible for their actions. It's sad this is an option. And it's sad that people on both sides are shamed, put down, and vilified. It's sad that there are roughly 400k babies killed a year, and adoptions cost $30k. The whole industry is sad.

I thought this was a dutchjazzer post at first glance

 

[moevillini]

This is a clown question, Moe. Step your game up. We're not even in the same ball park.

Lol. Anti "murder."

So answer it then you clown!

 

[DutchJazzer]

I didn't wanna get drunk, but I drank alcohol and it just happened.

I didn't wanna get high, but I smoked weed and it just happened.

These are all preventable things. Sure she probably didn't wanna get pregnant, but don't act like she didn't willingly involve herself in an act that makes pregnancy possible! So now she wants to punish somebody, somebody's body, because it's her body and she gets to choose what to do with it. Well she did choose. She had sex knowing she could get pregnant, but now it's not her fault? And what gives her the right to harm somebody because it's her body? This whole issue comes down to whether somebody is wanted or not. That's how we're choosing who lives...whether they're wanted or not. And that's sad. It's sad people don't want to be responsible for their actions. It's sad this is an option. And it's sad that people on both sides are shamed, put down, and vilified. It's sad that there are roughly 400k babies killed a year, and adoptions cost $30k. The whole industry is sad.

if you get drunk and get a diu and kill someone you cannot escape the consequences maybe i you hire Johny cockran.
if you get high and commit a crime you will also get convicted.

those government holds u responsible for those actions.

but having sex and getting pregnant you can escape those consequences.