Please fire Snyder and get a real coach in the summer

[MTS]

Who cares about missing free throws? Each free throw is its own individual event and missed free throws have no bearing on whether you will hit the next one or not. That many missed FTs are a statistical aberration(since we know the Jazz shoot them at 75% for the season) that has to correct itself. It's like flipping a coin heads 10 times and then not flipping again because it's going to surely come up heads again.

How can you possibly argue that the Warriors, the best shooting team in the league, were more likely to miss their shots than the Jazz were to make free throws? What kind of a ****ed up logic is that?

Even if the Jazz had a 75% chance to make every FT in this hypothetical, getting in a FT shooting contest with Stephen Curry would not have ended well for us. This is very basic math.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Who cares about missing free throws? Each free throw is its own individual event and missed free throws have no bearing on whether you will hit the next one or not. That many missed FTs are a statistical aberration(since we know the Jazz shoot them at 75% for the season) that has to correct itself. It's like flipping a coin heads 10 times and then not flipping again because it's going to surely come up heads again.

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Clearly it isnt on its own. Statistics show that but that stats that show that don't go into situations like this. Averages change over time and clearly the Jazz were flustered and it was in their heads. Also studies have shown free throws to be dependent on mental state of mind and become more difficult in tense situations where young players struggle to control their emotions. Additionally even if we shoot our averages Warriors have a better chance to win with their point per possession in close situations. You foul and Curry makes them. We are up 1 with the ball, they immediately foul and then we hit 1 free throw and have a 50/50 chance (assuming you dont think the Jazz were overthinking and nervous on the free throw line). That gives the ball to the Ws with us up 1-3 points with only a few seconds off the clock. Run that scenario a couple more times and for sure instead of us being tied with the ball at the end of the game you end up with the Warriors with a chance to win the game at the end. Quin made the correct decision and every coach would do the same unless they are idiots.

How can you possibly argue that the Warriors, the best shooting team in the league, were more likely to miss their shots than the Jazz were to make free throws? What kind of a ****ed up logic is that?[

Not arguing that. Ws have a better chance of outscoring the Jazz per possession shooting than the Jazz are at the FT line at the end of a game.

 

[JimLes]

Even if the Jazz had a 75% chance to make every FT in this hypothetical, getting in a FT shooting contest with Stephen Curry would not have ended well for us. This is very basic math.

Right, basic math. Because our best FT shooter shoots 3 whopping percentage points under Steph Curry.

But of course, your logic is that somehow the Jazz would have no choice but to foul Curry himself, even though the Warriors were not in a position to hold the ball and wait for the fould, but the Jazz wouldn't be smart enough to inbound to Rodney, who shoots 87%.

 

[JimLes]

You foul and Curry makes them.

Again, what is with you people talking about Curry? Why would the Jazz foul him instead of forcing the ball out of his hands? He can't just wait for the foul, they are down 3!

It's like I'm talking to children here.

 

[Diamond77]

I blame the coach for not fouling before the best three point shooting team in the NBA has a chance to tie the game. I also blame him for drawing up a play for the win that ends up with Shelvin Mack trying to shoot over Draymond Green while falling to the side.

This is basic basketball. Foul when up 3. Draw up a play for one of your star players.

I support you in this thesis! In addition where was Gobert in the last play that we needed a rebounder?

 

[MTS]

Again, what is with you people talking about Curry? Why would the Jazz foul him instead of forcing the ball out of his hands? He can't just wait for the foul, they are down 3!

What you are describing here is exactly how the Jazz played it.

The Jazz DID force the ball out of his hands.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Again, what is with you people talking about Curry? Why would the Jazz foul him instead of forcing the ball out of his hands? He can't just wait for the foul, they are down 3!

It's like I'm talking to children here.

He was the one with the ball. If you force it out of his hands then you leave a wide open 3 point shot. So instead of a contested three they took you give them a wide open shot with a better chance of rebounding since they have more players in possession. Glad we have a coach who is much more intelligent then you.

 

[JimLes]

Genuine question: Are you retarded?

The Jazz DID force the ball out of his hands.

And then they should've fouled Klay. And whoever got the rebound and passed it to Klay right after.

 

[MTS]

And then they should've fouled Klay. And whoever got the rebound and passed it to Klay right after.

Foul Klay when? Klay shot it right after he caught it, because we forced it out of Curry's hands.

 

[Ron Mexico]

And then they should've fouled Klay. And whoever got the rebound and passed it to Klay right after.

Fine, Klay makes them both. He is an elite shooter as well. He is a great FT shooter and has makes them in the clutch.

Maybe they should have fouled the rebounder but he is shooting .84% and that is on the players to understand the situation and make the right decision. Very good chance that he told them to foul certain players if they got the ball.

 

[JimLes]

Foul Klay when?

Before he shoots it. See? Simple as pie.

 

[MTS]

Before he shoots it. See? Simple as pie.

He caught it and shot it before anybody could get to him. There was no time to foul. That's sorta what happens when you force the ball out of Curry's hands - somebody else is going to be open.