Pleiss Traded to Philly!!!

[Watcher]

Now that Pleiss is gone, who has the most unreal shooting mechanics on the team?

Rudy.

 

[infection]

Would you have given him the max from Utah's perspective?

No. But I wouldn't have dealt him for a heap of trash, either, and then gone on to talk about the "haul" we got for him. Most importantly would be to send him a message to STFU and learn his place. Granted there was positive chemistry changes when it happened, but I didn't care for the precedent of accommodating his wishes on demand. Wouldn't have made it comfortable for him and just let his contract expire and walk if there wasn't anything better on the table.

If we called OKC and offered Tibor for Kanter (ignore CBA) my guess is they'd do it.

I think Porty trolled OKC... Would anyone doubt they would do that... they are the worst.

It doesn't matter what they'd do now. It only matters what anyone would have done then.

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

Withey's 15 footer is smoove.

But are the mechanics unreal?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

God damn... they didn't waste time.

I wish they would thank him for his service in there... come on have some fun with it.

 

[infection]

That almost reads like an obituary.

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

Rudy.

Got it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SBEOmavjmM

 

[stitches]

No. But I wouldn't have dealt him for a heap of trash, either, and then gone on to talk about the "haul" we got for him. Most importantly would be to send him a message to STFU and learn his place. Granted there was positive chemistry changes when it happened, but I didn't care for the precedent of accommodating his wishes on demand. Wouldn't have made it comfortable for him and just let his contract expire and walk if there wasn't anything better on the table.



It doesn't matter what they'd do now. It only matters what anyone would have done then.

So you are mad that we got something for him and would have preferred we "send a message" and let him walk for nothing?

I'm sorry but I don't get it. To me there are really two cases - you decide you want to keep him and give him the max in the summer and try to appease him in the process or you get the best offer you can get for him. Letting him walk to me was not an option(well, it was an option but a HORRIBLE one).

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

No. But I wouldn't have dealt him for a heap of trash, either, and then gone on to talk about the "haul" we got for him. Most importantly would be to send him a message to STFU and learn his place. Granted there was positive chemistry changes when it happened, but I didn't care for the precedent of accommodating his wishes on demand. Wouldn't have made it comfortable for him and just let his contract expire and walk if there wasn't anything better on the table.



It doesn't matter what they'd do now. It only matters what anyone would have done then.

Not really, because we are all judging the trade now because Tibor did nothing... now.

I would love to have gotten more for Kanter... If we could have gotten Jackson then it was a mistake, but we still have an okay shot at a first rounder or two seconds coming. It's worth more than the life lessons we would have taught him by benching him... which also would have had a black cloud hanging over the team.

If you want to argue a Kanter trade... the time to do it was a year before we actually did.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

But are the mechanics unreal?

No... they are completely real... ****... can we get a redo.

 

[infection]

So you are mad that we got something for him and would have preferred we "send a message" and let him walk?

That's what I would have done, correct. We didn't exactly get anything for Kanter. If you had a car that's worth $5k, would you rather give it away to charity or trade it for a box of yesterday's hot dogs from 711? From a purely economical point of view the latter obviously wins out, but we're not really looking at it in isolation.

 

[Watcher]

We could always go back to the days when the Jazz didn't do any deals at all.

I'd much rather have a trade or two not really work out but a couple trades do and overall the team is improving.

 

[infection]

Not really, because we are all judging the trade now because Tibor did nothing... now.

I would love to have gotten more for Kanter... If we could have gotten Jackson then it was a mistake, but we still have an okay shot at a first rounder or two seconds coming. It's worth more than the life lessons we would have taught him by benching him... which also would have had a black cloud hanging over the team.

If you want to argue a Kanter trade... the time to do it was a year before we actually did.

Tibor was never a prospect. Even if his Europe numbers translated to the NBA they'd be atrocious. The only way we say we have a hindsight advantage is if we drank the Tibor KoolAid (of which there really wasn't all that much).