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Police Power and Racial Tensions in Ferguson, Missouri

E.J. Wells said:
I can't comment on this because I think it's BS. At what point will they no longer be able to claim oppression? Is it an eternal thing? As long as people keep feeding "oppressed" people their pity and welfare, it will be much harder for those oppressed to get out from under the boot of their alleged oppressors.
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1. I hope I'd never claim oppression or expect anyone else to solve my problems.

2. The Civil Rights Act was signed 50 years ago. That's pretty recent IMO. What African Americans endured before then (and some would say continue to endure) was incredible.


E.J. Wells said:
...we're talking about an entire race of people (black folks, as you call them) who are content with being the victims.
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Yikes. I'm going to assume you didn't mean to overgeneralize like this. Are you confident in this assessment?


E.J. Wells said:
The greatest athletes in the world are black. The best actors and actresses are black. The President is black. The greatest scientist alive right now is black. There is no excuse anymore. None. Stop making excuses for them.
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I wouldn't call what I'm doing "making excuses". I just think it's important to consider the history of race relations in America, and what it means to be a minority, when considering cases like this (and, in particular, why the reaction has been so strong).
 
E.J. Wells said:
Yes I do.



Yes I do. Utah liquor laws are a good example of this. As opposed to crimes like drugs, the people who are affected by Utah's antiquated, BS laws can just take their business elsewhere where it's totally legal. The state and the residents suffer from poor tax base, poor image, etc. probably not what you were talking about, but I brought it up because that is an example where I agree with you. Where I don't agree with you is criminal law.



Yes. How people go about being upset is another issue. You don't get things changed by rioting and looting, but by getting involved and playing the game.



I can't comment on this because I think it's BS. At what point will they no longer be able to claim oppression? Is it an eternal thing? As long as people keep feeding "oppressed" people their pity and welfare, it will be much harder for those oppressed to get out from under the boot of their alleged oppressors.

Keep in mind, we're not talking about homeless people, or mentally handicapped people, or gay people, or people in actual distress, we're talking about an entire race of people (black folks, as you call them) who are content with being the victims. The greatest athletes in the world are black. The best actors and actresses are black. The President is black. The greatest scientist alive right now is black. There is no excuse anymore. None. Stop making excuses for them.



Likewise.
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The best actors and actresses are black? Lol. What?

And who is this scientist? I'm genuinely asking.
 
GVC said:
1. I hope I'd never claim oppression or expect anyone else to solve my problems.
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Me either. I don't know why you felt the need to proclaim this fact, but there ya go.

2. The Civil Rights Act was signed 50 years ago. That's pretty recent IMO. What African Americans endured before then (and some would say continue to endure) was incredible.
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I don't disagree that it was incredible, but 50 years may have been a long time in earlier times and civilizations, but there is so much opportunity to succeed, and the world has never been as accepting as it is today, that the time of excuses is over.

Yikes. I'm going to assume you didn't mean to overgeneralize like this. Are you confident in this assessment?
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No, I'm not, but in the context of this conversation, where you've stated that an entire race is oppressed because of the white man, I am.

I wouldn't call what I'm doing "making excuses". I just think it's important to consider the history of race relations in America, and what it means to be a minority, when considering cases like this (and, in particular, why the reaction has been so strong).
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I think it has been considered and then some. It just seems that since my consideration didn't end up with the same conclusion as yours, I'm automatically a dumbass not worthy of your intellectual prowess. Trouty don't play dat. I may very well be wrong -- wouldn't be the first time -- I'm not a minority and never have been (at least outside of porn circles), so I understand where you and BabyWienerzz are coming from. I simply disagree.
 
E.J. Wells said:
It is crazy. Take Halle Berry off the list and I loathe any/all movies those actors are in. You can't deny that they are amazing at their craft and obviously very popular.
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What? Denzel is great. Though it would be nice if he played someone other than a law enforcement officer.
 
E.J. Wells said:
It just seems that since my consideration didn't end up with the same conclusion as yours, I'm automatically a dumbass not worthy of your intellectual prowess.
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What "conclusion" are you referring to? I really think you've misinterpreted virtually everything I've written in this thread. I'd suggest you go back to my first post and read it again. Perhaps read the subsequent posts as well. Is it really all that surprising that the reaction has been strong given the history of oppression (even if you only consider slavery, Jim Crow, etc.) and the disproportionate effect of changes in law enforcement (even if you think the race element is purely coincidental)?
 
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