Do you take risk in your personal life?
Poll: Would you do this trade? Stephen Jackson and Nazr Mohammed (expiring) for AK?
- Thread starter Gyp Rosetti
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Do you take risk in your personal life?
Players for player, sure, but financially this KILLS the Jazz long-term.
If we're bailing out Charlotte on long-term deals, the Jazz either need to save a lot of money this year (not possible unless a 3rd team under-the-cap is involved, which I think is impossible right now), get a better player like Wallace, or trade a bad long-term contract for another (Memo for Jax).
No. Not quite.
If we're bailing out Charlotte on long-term deals, the Jazz either need to save a lot of money this year (not possible unless a 3rd team under-the-cap is involved, which I think is impossible right now), get a better player like Wallace, or trade a bad long-term contract for another (Memo for Jax).
No. Not quite.
vslice02
Well-Known Member
*risks?* Yes. Just not $32 million risks involving 32-year olds. Living cheap with people in their 20's is where it's at.
Gyp Rosetti
Banned
There are only two years left on his contract and dude's putting up very good numbers. In other words, we see no sign that he's slowing down. He also doesn't have the extra season or so of post-season games that someone like Rip or Kobe has built up over the years.
vslice02
Well-Known Member
He'll be 33 and have 24,000 career minutes by playoff time and make $10.5 million this year, next year (2011-12), and the following year (2012-13 - it's a PO but not even Cap Jack would walk away from that). Also he doesn't really shoot a significantly higher percentage than Kirilenko, and we have no idea how well/if he'd fit into the Jazz's system - and even if he does it who knows how long that will take. If the Jazz move AK, I'd prefer a large chunk of the return to be expirings as well. If they take back a long-term contract, it better be for someone who makes them a legitimate top-5 team in the league and Jackson doesn't do that. I don't see the benefits outweighing the costs.
chemdude1232
Active Member
While his 42% FG season average is certainly lower than I'd like, I think in the Jazz offense his percentage would go up significantly. In Charlotte, he is the number 1 option in a bad offense where defenses key in on him. Here, he'd share the shots with DWill, Paul, and AJ (and now, deservedly, Hayward). Being in Utah would eliminate the isolation-centric offense he plays in and would substitute the Jazz' flex. He'd do very, very well here.
The problem is that once a wing is past 30 you never know when their playing just dives off of a cliff. Jackson has played some minutes over his career and hasn't been known to exactly been a gym rat, either. 3 years left on that deal is really toxic, and Jax plays losing basketball half the time and being as old and seasoned as he is, I see no indication he's just suddenly get it once he's here. If you compare Jax and Miles, Jax scores more PPS and has better 3-pt and FT shooting percentages, but Miles has a better PER and a better +/- while being vastly less experienced, nearly 10 years younger, and guaranteed to only get better or not get worse for a long time while you can only guarantee Jackson will get worse. I'm not saying Miles is the answer, just a comparison to show my doubt that Jax is.
Gyp Rosetti
Banned
About 6M of it does expire though and if we're being realistic, we're not going to get some Top 15 player in a trade. And while he may not shoot a lot better percentage than AK, it is better. Then figure in his balls, his ability to create and get to the rim or line (AK has zero ability to do that), his passion and intensity and leadership (again, things AK is totally lacking), his ability to stay healthy, and his lack of drama (which is scary considering we're talking about SJax), and it's an upgrade in so many ways. Like I said, he has just two years left. Not three or four. And we'll have Memo's expiring to trade as a chip next season as well.
Gyp Rosetti
Banned
Two years left.
That reasoning works well only if he knows how to play in a team. We're seeing how smoothly Al has been transitioning from being a black-hole to whatever it is he is trying to do right now. Some guys that argument works for, and maybe Jackson's one of them, but I've seen him chuck with reckless abandon and be a cancer (granted, in a horrible beyond words GS organization) enough to give pause. Everyone should give pause to the idea of acquiring a guy like Jax.