It’s not going to be next to Garland it would be in the Rubio role off of the bench and LaVert is expiring.
Predict the Rudy Gobert trade
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It’s not going to be next to Garland it would be in the Rubio role off of the bench and LaVert is expiring.
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Caris is a ball stopper but you are correct. This is also the team that made Mobley/Allen/Lauri work though… so maybe they go with only 7 footers and shortys.
Exactly. Only way we get all three is if we include Bogey. I think the middle ground is Capela/16 plus our choice of Hunter or Collins.
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And even then you are taking back Capela deal too. I think JC is more likely to be moved than Hunter. They have like the most unreliable players health wise… JC, Hunter, Bogdon, Okongwu… have all had their fair share of issues. Hunter and Bogeys issues are fairly concerning imo… they seem like things they will deal with forever. Ironically Trae and his junior high physique have been more durable.
Just look at what freaking Vucevic or Sabonis got in a trade. If you think Gobert should fetch less then I don't really want to talk about basketball with you. We should treat Gobert with the respect he deserves and not with the urgency CAA wants to get rid off him. If someone wants him they should know who they are trading for - 3 time NBA all star, 4 time All NBA, 3 time DPOY, 6 time first team All D, the best player on a perennial playoff team. And it's not like those happened some distant time back in the past...like 5-10 years ago. This is still the same player! PUT SOME RESPECT ON THAT MAN's NAME and stop with the insulting offers.
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I agree. Like HH was talking about, Atlanta has had some inconsistency with injuries. Rudy would seem to provide everything they lack (defense) and consistency at C.
I don't really want Capela. I think Charlotte might. Or maybe even Chicago. Who knows.
But like you're saying, we should be asking for a good bit.
Seriously....the Jazz need to show some backbone in negotiations. We always send out premium value for trades, we give the most money in extensions, we give the most to FA's....If Danny has any worth to his franchise he won't just take the first deal available because we have to. Rudy Gobert will take a team from 40 to 55 wins. That's the drop-off we're expecting by losing him. He's a multi all NBA player and future HOF in his prime. I understand we won't be able to return 100% value, but that doesn't mean we must take back 50%.
Whoever we ended up trading....Gobert, Conley, Bogey, Mitchell....the FO needs to show some worth and get real value back.
This legit made me laugh.
Vucevic went for two firsts and a young player (Wendell Carter Jr)
Sabonis went for bad salary and Haliburton
Sabonis is averaging 19M a year for the next two years and he’s 26.
Vucevic was making 24M when they did the deal and now 22M plus it’s expiring.
Rudy has a terrible contract he is going to be owed 44M and 47M when he is 32 and 33.
He’s also very limited offensively and not many teams want to spend 1/4 or 1/3 of their cap on a limited offensive player.
The type of deals we are throwing out get us a mid first, a young player and a starter. Not sure what else more you expect.
When has any player with a game similar to Rudy’s ever aged gracefully?
Dikembe Mutombo
Ben Wallace
Dwight Howard
DeAndre Jordan
Rudy is better than Jordan defensively and Dwight is better offensively but the point remains the same.
All of these guys games dropped off once they hit 32, 33, 34, etc. Rudy is owed 44M and 47M right in that stretch. That’s not great.
Dikembe Mutombo
Ben Wallace
Dwight Howard
DeAndre Jordan
Rudy is better than Jordan defensively and Dwight is better offensively but the point remains the same.
All of these guys games dropped off once they hit 32, 33, 34, etc. Rudy is owed 44M and 47M right in that stretch. That’s not great.
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They did quite well and they found some desperate teams… the issue is both guys were on value deals with like 1/3 the money Rudy has. Both trades were awful when they happened… Carter Jr. bouncing back has made the Orlando trade a damn heist… Franz is the key prize there and not all picks in that range look as good as he does but it was expected that would be a good value.
I’m not sure we can rely on a team doing a bad deal in our timeframe. A mid season Rudy trade would be so disruptive that you’d likely lose the season. I’m fine with that but you’d also likely lose Donovan in that scenario… which I’m fine with if we get a good offer… I guess I am talking myself through this here… I’d be okay waiting until trade deadline if offers aren’t great. There is definitely some risk… but some GMs get more desperate as the season unfolds. We also might have an injury that gets us off to a bad start.
Alright… I guess I’m good digging in a bit here. I’d like to do it before the draft to get a shot at someone who could be good… those picks can go both ways… if they show great potential the prospects are untouchable… if they struggle they depreciate like crazy.
If the goal is to appease Donovan I don’t think it goes over well.
Yes they make less now... because they are NOT AS GOOD AS GOBERT! How ****ing complicated is this? WHo the hell decided that Gobert's contract is horrible? Gobert's contract as it stands now is perfectly good for the level fo play and impact he gives your team. What you are doing is projecting that he will drop off when he's 32 or 33. Will he? Maybe or maybe not... They are trading for him now. Not in 2024. Mid 1st, a bust who we have to rehabilitate and mediocre starter is not what you expect for a player of Gobert's stature. I'm sorry...