Again, the standard was "dominate", not "blame". Argue honestly. Mitchell's not at fault for the offensive struggles, but that doesn't mean he dominates the opposition.
Predict the Rudy Gobert trade
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Rudy is being paid his market value. It's not a bad contract. If it were, there wouldn't be a trade market for him. The guy leads the league in rebounds, FG% and defensive =/-. He's a player who can put the right team over the top.
I am not sure what your definition of dominate means. Please elaborate.
The whole point is it is going to be a bad contract in 2-3 years.
In this hypothetical scenario, weren't we also giving them our Bogdanovic?
No, Gobert plus salary filler is enough someone like Gay.
Gonna avoid the argument? Nice! Depends on what they do with their other assets. I think a Trae+Gobert team should strive to win 50 games regardless of who the teammates are. Those two are the most elite of elite on either end and can drive a top 10 performance on their own.
The point real is, if you don’t have Rudy you will pay the same or more for way worse results. That is why Rudy is valuable and this is what we we’re talking about. Don’t shortchange him. Don’t tell me Rudy is on a terrible contract and doesn’t have trade value when a “good” alternative is paying Collins and Capela for the same amount and winning less. For many teams, they’re paying a combo like Hardaway and Bertans the same amount.
Rudy is worth his contract, and teams would be dying to give him the same exact contract right now if they could.
I would love being wrong and getting huge package for Rudy.
If you're a team building your offense around Damian Lillard, Kevin Durant, Lebron James or Steph Curry, you don't care what Rudy's contract looks like in 3 years. You want to compete in the playoffs while you still have a window to do so. And even if not, it's better to pay $40M for a perennial All Star and DPOY than to pay the same money to three other average guys. The goal in basketball is to put the best 5 guys on the floor you can.
Besides, there are rumors that the next round of TV contracts will raise the salary cap in a few years and make Rudy's contract look palatable.
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So I think maybe the biggest disconnect may be on the Atlanta side. I think they view themselves as a conference finals team and they are really much more a fringe playoff team. So they may be thinking about the playoff flexibility of having Capela, Collins, Hunter vs. Rudy instead of thinking about actually getting there.
They also have Okongwu and so adding Rudy at a premium over Capela may be viewed as being short sighted. It depends on what they can get for Collins separately as well. Maybe they swing a Jerami Grant deal or something and think Capela, Okongwu, Grant will provide better defense and some additional flexibility.
Its hard to put yourselves in their shoes, but if they realized Trae Young is going to have some limitations in the playoffs anyway so why not kill it in the regular season.
Rudy isn’t getting traded to any teams with those players though. Also, the contract may look palatable if he’s putting up the same production. L
I think ATL is just the most clear example, even if they might think so themselves, of a team that Rudy would seriously elevate. It does seem like they have a lot of belief in their squad because they beat PHI (Ben Simmons special), but I think it really carries to other teams as well. If the argument against Rudy is his contract, what are these other teams doing with that money? Do they even have cap space? Rudy is absolutely going to help any of these teams. DAL, ATL, CHO, CHI, TOR....they could all use Rudy. And we should get value for that. I'm just not buying that Rudy is a terrible contract when these teams would give him this contract in a milisecond if they could.