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Preseason Game #2 - Portland @ Utah, 12-21-11, 7pm MST

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Come on guys, keep it real!

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The Jazz will play better!

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Defense wins!

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Keith McLeod will play!!!

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19-13!!!!!!!

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If Favors and Hayward aren't in the starting lineup tomorrow that would be a true shame and a perfect reflection of Corbin's extraordinary stupidity.
 
I hope to see some chemistry in the game.
Some stops at the defense and some color at the offense.
 
If Favors and Hayward aren't in the starting lineup tomorrow that would be a true shame and a perfect reflection of Corbin's extraordinary stupidity.

Still the preseason, relax. If Corbin doesn't start them on the 27th then we will talk.
 
On the other hand. Really looking forward to this game and to see how the guys bounce back.
 
I'm hoping the audio isn't working on my tv.

Of course you could mute the TV and use NBA Audio League pass to listen to the Portland Radio guys. They are far less annoying than Locke, Boler and Harpring.
 
Of course you could mute the TV and use NBA Audio League pass to listen to the Portland Radio guys. They are far less annoying than Locke, Boler and Harpring.

Haha, not a bad suggestion, actually. Is the timing synced?
 
Of course you could mute the TV and use NBA Audio League pass to listen to the Portland Radio guys. They are far less annoying than Locke, Boler and Harpring.

I'd advise against this. Wheels is only tolerable when the Blazers are down by like 30 and he's whining at the refs. Any other time, listening to nothing at all is preferable as long as you've got live video to look at.
 
I honestly don't care who Corbin starts, as long as he doesn't start with Okur and Jefferson.

That first quarter was brutal. The other quarters were fine, even though Utah still got outplayed, it was a great showing from our young guys.
 
Come on guys, keep it real!

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The Jazz will play better!

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Defense wins!

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Keith McLeod will play!!!

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19-13!!!!!!!

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Mcleod is a beast. Must play this game. Go Mcleod. Need Coach back.
 
I just cannot understand the fans who are already in calamity howler mode. We have +10 pages for a freakin' scrimmage, including player-by-player analysis :) It will take at least a couple of months for this team to play solid, consistently efficient, I think. I will be fair to coach Corbin, who is in the toughest position during this period.

Coaching staff and management have very litte time to
- accomplish a degree of cohesion both on offense and defense
- decide on who to start, who to pair together considering the harmony in potential 5-man units
- divide the 96 mins of PT between 5 bigmen
- insert new defensive and offensive strategies (1-2 week of training camp + just 2 preseason games) and get the rookies and newcomers to execute them by not thinking too much on play, instead instinctively, which is nearly impossible to attain in such a shortened training period
- decide on whether to make a line up that is changeless throughout the season ,barring injuries; or to make radical changes in the rotations pursuant to opponents' rotation etc...

Players also have had a short time understanding how to effectively use each other's skillset, especially bigmen's. From my viewpoint, that was the thing that hurt the Jazz most against Blazers. Too many turnovers on offense, and thinking too much on defensive rotations, as well as miserable effort from veterans to start the ballgame were other factors. Most of these agents, IMO, should be expected. The Jazz have a new head coach, many new faces and old ones with little experience of Jazz basketball. The only thing I was unhappy with was the lack of effort, mainly by veterans. Way to set example for youngsters.

However, I'm not buying the idea that the Jazz should start all / most of the youngsters since the club is in a period of change. You play the games to win, not to give any chance to rookies for them to develop, hoping that in X years you will have hell of a squad. When it comes to the dilemma of playing vets over young ones / providing PT for player development; I think a coach should seek for a balance, which is very difficult to ensure in such a shortened period of time. Giving 25-30 mins to a rookie does not guarantee a bright future for your club and the player. Minnesota has had lineups including many lottery and early first round picks, and if they become a 50 win team in two years, does it make them a successful organization, will it be considered a pleasure for their fans to enjoy the much-anticipated +.500 season? I do not give a s*** if Minny wins WCF or Finals in 4-5 years with their numerous lottery picks.

My opinion is that; transition of roles in team dynamics from veterans to youngsters should occur smoothly and in an extended period, rather than quickly, even when you select a player like KD or Rose from draft. Regardless of who starts the game on Wednesday, coach will be interested in the bigger picture, the cohesion in the units on the floor, communication in team defense, offensive execution. The search for lineup preferences may continue till the mid-January, so I find the discussions as to who will/should start indiscreet. We have seen the team play 2 times, one being a much-disputed scrimmage. I, personally, am more interested in the overall effort and execution, fluent on-the-court play as a group.
 
MIM, you're being too kind. At least a couple months? By that time the season will be lost and young guys may have become disenchanted with the direction of the Jazz organization. This isn't rocket science here. We don't need John Nash to figure out a) who's busting their *** on both ends of the court b) who's producing on both ends of the court c) who's limiting "unforced errors" and d) how to mix and match the guys best. Seriously, we're only talking about five players here. It's a lock that Harris is starting so Corbin really only needs to figure out the other four guys to start. Is that so tough? Whoever's left is pretty much off the bench. Again, not rocket science. But if Corbin ignores such logic and chooses instead to go with the vets because that's the safe route, he'll see the losses piling up quickly and find a fanbase who wants his head. Regardless, starting Okur and Jefferson will be one of the dumbest moves in the history of the league and if he does that, he might as well sign his name on his career suicide papers.
 
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