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Preseason Game #6: Jazz visits LA @7:30 PM on ROOT

Cy said:
Yes, Burks is not the only player who breaks the offense, he is just the one who does it most often.
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I your opinion. I'm fine with that
 
You can usually see when a play is totally out of the team's play and team's concept. It's usually when he gets the ball and just tries to beat his man off the dribble and just drives, no use of screens, no use of passes or movement of the teammates. Look at the second half today if you have the tape, there were plenty of those. I have no problem with him going to the rim when it's within the system, when he uses a screen and cuts to the basket, when he receives a pass off a screen and drives, even when the play had been broken and we need improvisation with limited time on the clock.

Here's what Quin said for today's game. I don't think he will single out a player, especially this early, but can you have a wild guess who he was talking about:
"One of those Jekyll & Hyde things... I thought there was a number of guys who played very well the first half when the ball moved, and [in the second half] when people started doing too much on their own you run the risk of that happening".

https://kfanav.s3.amazonaws.com/20141020_Quin-Snyder-Postgame-Full.mp3

I am far from thinking that Burks was the only one who broke the offense. The whole team takes part in breaking it, but he's been the culprit more often than anybody else, I think. What's worse I think is that when it gets broken several times in a row, the whole rhythm gets lost and it becomes contagious...
 
stitches said:
You can usually see when a play is totally out of the team's play and team's concept. It's usually when he gets the ball and just tries to beat his man off the dribble and just drives, no use of screens, no use of passes or movement of the teammates. Look at the second half today if you have the tape, there were plenty of those. I have no problem with him going to the rim when it's within the system, when he uses a screen and cuts to the basket, when he receives a pass off a screen and drives, even when the play had been broken and we need improvisation with limited time on the clock.

Here's what Quin said for today's game. I don't think he will single out a player, especially this early, but can you have a wild guess who he was talking about:
"One of those Jekyll & Hyde things... I thought there was a number of guys who played very well the first half when the ball moved, and [in the second half] when people started doing too much on their own you run the risk of that happening".

https://kfanav.s3.amazonaws.com/20141020_Quin-Snyder-Postgame-Full.mp3
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I guess we will just have to see what happens to Burks minutes as the season goes on and he continues to go rogue. So far it seems that there has been no consequence, but it's still early.

If snyder does have a problem with Burks then we will probably see Burks minutes began going to exum and hood as the season progresses.

I guess it's pre-season and alot of things have to play themselves out
 
fishonjazz said:
Nope not really. I'm just saying that there COULD BE other things happening. Basically we don't know everything about what goes on in the game. We are not in timeouts, practices, meetings, etc.

Maybe kanter got a lot of minutes because of his offense. I don't know
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What did Kanter do well in that time. (as I feel well versed, after reading the thread, on the negative side of things)
 
Burks will get a lot of minutes no matter what this season, there is just no one else to take minutes from him. Hood can only handle so many minutes as a rookie.
 
Re: Burks

That 21 footer on the wing while falling a bit to his right early in the shot clock had to the biggest eye raiser of the night.
 
[preparing to duck].....

I would trade Burks.

I do not think he fits a share the ball system.

[still ducking...]
 
I'm not saying that the criticism of Burks is unwarranted, but this was a late pre-season game where the coach deliberately emptied the dregs of the bench in lieu of the better players and played rotations that never, ever (hopefully, unless we have a nightmare run of injuries) would exist in a regular season game. Let's not give up on Burks so quick. Burks didn't play well within the offense, but this is a really tough game to seriously evaluate. The Jazz went out of their way to lose tonight. It'll be interesting to see how Burks is gelling a couple months into the season.
 
These kinds of games are good experience for the young bunch. Them learning that every lead can slip out of hands in no serious matter of time while also learning to win games is a good thing. They are learning not to ease off one bit.
 
Rudy with 8 points, 10 rebounds, 4 blocks, 1 assist. Give this guy 25 of the bench. He will make you win. I will be curious about his end season statline in Win Share category.
 
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