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Protester gets shot with tear gas canister in Oakland.

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The Thriller said:
Once again, love the sterotypes.

As if all Tea Baggers are employed, have college education, and aren't living in their parents basements.

LOL

I just love how some media outlets are tripping over themselves trying to dismiss the Occupy protesters while trying to act as if the Tea Baggers were any different.

I'm guessing you'd find the Occupy protesters to be at least as well educated, employed, etc as any other protest group.
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Certainly more educated than the average illiterate tea bagger screaming that Obama is an illegal alien at some redneck rally.

That guy in the video was not some unemployed bum. He was a 2 term Iraq war vet. I saw his room mate (who is also an Iraq war vet, they served together) on a news show the other day, so I know he didn't live in his parents' basement either.
 
SaltyDawg said:
That guy in the video was not some unemployed bum. He was a 2 term Iraq war vet. I saw his room mate (who is also an Iraq war vet, they served together) on a news show the other day, so I know he didn't live in his parents' basement either.
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But according to Thriller being a soldier ain't a real job.

The Thriller said:
The best deficit reducing measures would be to STOP being the policemen of the world. Send these Americans back home to power REAL jobs.
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Millsapa said:
But according to Thriller being a soldier ain't a real job.
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Boom boom boom boom...


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The Thriller said:
Once again, love the sterotypes.

As if all Tea Baggers are employed, have college education, and aren't living in their parents basements.

LOL

I just love how some media outlets are tripping over themselves trying to dismiss the Occupy protesters while trying to act as if the Tea Baggers were any different.

I'm guessing you'd find the Occupy protesters to be at least as well educated, employed, etc as any other protest group.
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Actually, listening to NPR, they paint the picture that many of the "Occupy" protestors are unemployed with few prospects and just don't have anything else to do. In some areas, notably San Francisco and Chicago they have stopped offering food, or limited the food offered during the protests to "beans and rice" to help keep down the influx of homeless to get a free meal. Of course they didn't give stats as to how many people in the protests fit this demo, but it was significant enough that organizers felt they needed to do something about it and it made it onto NPR and some other news sources.

By the way, the use of "Tea Baggers" to support your position that THEY are the ones using false stereotypes sure does say something about you. Hypocritical much?
 
SaltyDawg said:
That guy in the video was not some unemployed bum. He was a 2 term Iraq war vet. I saw his room mate (who is also an Iraq war vet, they served together) on a news show the other day, so I know he didn't live in his parents' basement either.
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What "REAL" job does this "world policeman" and his "roommate" have now that Obama reduced the deficit by bringing them home?
 
Millsapa said:
What "REAL" job does this "world policeman" and his "roommate" have now that Obama reduced the deficit by bringing them home?
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"Olsen joined the Marines in 2006, served two tours in Iraq and was discharged in 2010, according to Iraq Veterans Against the War. Now a systems administrator at San Francisco software firm OPSWAT Inc., he had spent most nights during the last few weeks at the Occupy SF camp, said his roommate, Keith Shannon.

"He'd leave work, head there, sleep there and go to work the next day," Shannon said. "We were really against the fact that the banks and corporations were not held accountable for what they did.""



https://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/27/BAD61LN3LM.DTL
 
SaltyDawg said:
I don't know how he "really" got hit in the head with a flash grenade or tear gas round (which is what put him on the ground in the first place), but you can see the cop throw a flash grenade right next to him while he is laying on the ground.

I don't think we need to be using force to "control" these protests unless they actually do get out of hand. There have been zero reports of looting, violence, drugs, or any other crimes. The only violence and crime coming from these protests (the one in Oakland included) is from the police getting violent with the protesters and arresting them on bogus charges (such as unlawful assembly, resisting arrest, disorderly conduct, etc).
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I wouldn't go that far

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Cops-use-tear-gas-protests-turns-violent.html

In a five-hour stand-off protesters vandalised businesses and smashed bank windows, as they tried to shut down the city - and police appeared to respond using tear gas and flash bang grenades.
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Back in Oakland - riot police arrested dozens of protesters who had marched through downtown to break into a vacant building, shattering windows, spraying graffiti and setting fires along the way.
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‘The protesters began hurling rocks, explosives, bottles and flaming objects at responding officers.
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I'm not saying that I agree that peaceful protests should be met with violence, nor that I think that an individual laying on the ground injured should be harmed or not allowed to receive aid. What I am saying is that you have some violent individuals hiding in the midst of many protestors. If they are are hurling deadly objects at the Oakland PD then the Oakland PD is going to try to disperse the group.

Also, have any of the occupiers of the port of Oakland considered the thousands of blue-collar workers in Oakland who rely on the port to feed their family? The workers who are currently out of work waiting for this to get resolved.
 
My initial response to this thread is, "Good!".

After watching the video and reading some of the nonsense in this thread, it's still, "Good!". 99% of the time, I will side with police, especially when all of the evidence isn't known. All I've seen is some video that has gone viral. For all I know, the police gave this guy 10 chances to move or disburse, and he continued to disobey orders. For all I know, they were on private property. For all I know, that guy could've pulled a gun. For all I know...

See, that's just it, I don't know -- and neither do you. Stop making stupid blanket statements because of some propaganda laced video/commentary/news article. Ockham's razor is usually a safe bet, especially where the police -- you know, the guys that put their lives on the line every day to protect yours and my freedoms/rights -- are concerned.
 
TroutBum said:
My initial response to this thread is, "Good!".

After watching the video and reading some of the nonsense in this thread, it's still, "Good!". 99% of the time, I will side with police, especially when all of the evidence isn't known. All I've seen is some video that has gone viral. For all I know, the police gave this guy 10 chances to move or disburse, and he continued to disobey orders. For all I know, they were on private property. For all I know, that guy could've pulled a gun. For all I know...

See, that's just it, I don't know -- and neither do you. Stop making stupid blanket statements because of some propaganda laced video/commentary/news article. Ockham's razor is usually a safe bet, especially where the police -- you know, the guys that put their lives on the line every day to protect yours and my freedoms/rights -- are concerned.
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If you lived in the Bay Area I think you'd realize that the Oakland PD is a whole different animal. They **** up A LOT.
 
Agoxlea said:
If you lived in the Bay Area I think you'd realize that the Oakland PD is a whole different animal. They **** up A LOT.
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Of course, they're human, but wouldn't you agree that a VAST majority of the time, they serve and protect vs. hinder and harm? For every time an Oakland cop ****s up, are there not 1000's of cases of them doing the right thing? I think it's safe to assume this with every police department in the US.
 
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