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Racialism or Not--You Decide™: Phil Jackzen Edition

Racialism or Not? You Decide™

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I voted racialism, whever the heck that means.

when I was growing up I called my brother "n........" trying to make him mad. Today &&&&&&&s do that trying to tell a brother they love them. We also fed the drunks who slept in the barn on the block next to the city park. I'd milk the cow in that barn, haul the milk to the house to let mom screen it, and take it back to the "hobos". Nobody ever scared me, or hurt me, except my brother, who'd beat the crap out of me on general principles.

political correctness is a complete failure. All it has done is create a generation of snobs who pretend to be good.

I voted "racialism" on this question because I think it's good to be making generalizations about classifications of people that are actually useful. Vive la difference.

and oh ya. .. .. Phil Jackson would be calling me "black" by his standards. I hated the team aspects of basketball. For me, it was all about being the kid on the street who couldn't be beat. And I could beat any three kids who ever took me on.

I can shoot, I tell ya. I can shoot.
 
babe said:
I voted racialism, whever the heck that means.

when I was growing up I called my brother "n........" trying to make him mad. Today &&&&&&&s do that trying to tell a brother they love them. We also fed the drunks who slept in the barn on the block next to the city park. I'd milk the cow in that barn, haul the milk to the house to let mom screen it, and take it back to the "hobos". Nobody ever scared me, or hurt me, except my brother, who'd beat the crap out of me on general principles.

political correctness is a complete failure. All it has done is create a generation of snobs who pretend to be good.

I voted "racialism" on this question because I think it's good to be making generalizations about classifications of people that are actually useful. Vive la difference.

and oh ya. .. .. Phil Jackson would be calling me "black" by his standards. I hated the team aspects of basketball. For me, it was all about being the kid on the street who couldn't be beat. And I could beat any three kids who ever took me on.

I can shoot, I tell ya. I can shoot.
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This sounds like the most sense-making thought I have ever heard for a long long time during the phase of beating the crap out of the concept of racialism.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Anytime you make sweeping generalizations due to race, it's racist. That being said, this tends to be fairly accurate racialism. I play with white people who want to shoot contested, off-the-dribble 3's and I play with black people who are actually incredible passers and mentally far superior than most players. I find most of the players who play intelligently are usually far more intelligent off the court too.
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The only sweeping generalizations I saw were in regards to cultural & community dynamics within the US. It's no more racist to discuss predictable, measurable characteristics within a culture than it is to discuss predictable, measurable characteristics between separate cultures (i.e. collectivism Chinese culture vs. individualism western society).

He's also speaking of what he has personally experienced as a professional within the sport for many years, and presents it without any malice.
 
One Brow said:
There are so many fallacies, confusions, and stereotypes in that passage that it seems unfair to just pick the racist elements from it, especially since Jackson would probably denounce that passage if asked about it today.
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Welcome to the human race. Almost anything we can say about ourselves generally will have a whole boatload of stereotypes in the mix, considering the variable ways we do picture ourselves and others, and put diverse spins on the words as we process them.

The only thing worse than having an actually human sort of concept about ourselves, or others, is thinking oneself qualified to declare what others may or may not say, or try to say, as the case may be.
 
franklin said:
The only sweeping generalizations I saw were in regards to cultural & community dynamics within the US. It's no more racist to discuss predictable, measurable characteristics within a culture than it is to discuss predictable, measurable characteristics between separate cultures (i.e. collectivism Chinese culture vs. individualism western society).

He's also speaking of what he has personally experienced as a professional within the sport for many years, and presents it without any malice.
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Yeah, you really need to be an NBA ballplayer and coach to pick up on that and really give credence to it.
 
nah, just someone who wanted to say something in common terms expressing his experience and thoughts.

and he probably didn't really care to make a big deal about it.

when ya gotta write a book, ya gotta try to be funny. . . . or try to say something others aren't saying. . . . .

and if the book sells, ya jus laugh all the way to the bank.
 
Duders. God is racialist if that is what you think racialism is. He favors black people more than the whites. And whites more than the yellows. Dick sizes is what I'm talking about. But every advantage brings a disadvantage for every race. I just haven't figured out yet what disadvantages do black people have physically.
 
franklin said:
The only sweeping generalizations I saw were in regards to cultural & community dynamics within the US. It's no more racist to discuss predictable, measurable characteristics within a culture than it is to discuss predictable, measurable characteristics between separate cultures (i.e. collectivism Chinese culture vs. individualism western society).

He's also speaking of what he has personally experienced as a professional within the sport for many years, and presents it without any malice.
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What about "more willing" is a predictable observation? How do you measure "work collectively"? Do you really think he had the background to determine which cultures had more avenues for personal expression or are taught the principle of self-sacrifice to a greater degree? To me, it reads exactly like he's engaging in confirmation bias and selective perception.

Why do you think "without any malice" is relevant to the question of whether the observations are based in racism?
 
One Brow said:
What about "more willing" is a predictable observation? How do you measure "work collectively"? Do you really think he had the background to determine which cultures had more avenues for personal expression or are taught the principle of self-sacrifice to a greater degree? To me, it reads exactly like he's engaging in confirmation bias and selective perception.

Why do you think "without any malice" is relevant to the question of whether the observations are based in racism?
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Just because his perceptions may be inaccurate does not make them inherently racist.

"Orcs tend to drive slow." Is not racist.
"Orcs shouldn't be allowed to drive because they drive slow." Is racist.

"Orochi are louder than I'm normally comfortable with." Is not racist.
"Orochi should not be allowed in my favorite diner because they're loud and bothersome." Is racist.
 
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